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| Quote ="Robbo4"Whilst I dont agree with Standee regards Tommy Lee he still has the right to his opinion of him as a player. The ability/willingness to say it to his face or otherwise should have nothing to do with it. Easy to say I know but Tommy shouldn't take it personally (and probably doesn't) if someone on a message board thinks he is "crap". Plenty of people think he has something to offer, myself included, and hope that he achieves some success. Thackray moving on may make it easier for him to do that here but if not a move away could be the best thing for him.'"
For crap, read "not at the standard I wish we could attract to FC", of which, most of the squad falls short this season.
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| Quote ="Standee"For crap, read "not at the standard I wish we could attract to FC", of which, most of the squad falls short this season.'"
Indeed. I've always maintained, however, that he is good enough to be useful squad member and with time may grow into a starting player. He still has plenty of improvement left in him IMO.
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| Quote ="Standee"For crap, read "not at the standard I wish we could attract to FC", of which, most of the squad falls short this season.'"
Thats the point isnt it, the majority of our players are of the same ilk but with some having a hugely lower work rate.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_eek.gif You said you supported both teams, or do you just pick your seasons depending who has the better season
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| Quote ="MR BOJANGLES"Thats the point isnt it, the majority of our players are of the same ilk but with some having a hugely lower work rate.'"
Exactly, as well as a hugely higher salary.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Indeed. I've always maintained, however, that he is good enough to be useful squad member and with time may grow into a starting player. He still has plenty of improvement left in him IMO.'"
In the olden days, players hit their potential a lot earlier as the difference maybe from colts to first team wasnt as immense as it is now - players are still developing at 24/25 years old now so therefore plenty of time for tommy to realise his potential
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Nope, it depends who is playing for said team
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Yes, depends whose proping the team up
Fickle fans eh
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_eek.gif You said you supported both teams, or do you just pick your seasons depending who has the better season
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Not at all.
Its the players interests that bother me more than anything.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Yes, depends whose proping the team up
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Oh dear.
Why do i spend all my time defending the Hall's, the Lee's and the Radford's of the world then??
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Whatever
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Yes, depends whose proping the team up
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Oh dear.
Why do i spend all my time defending the Hall's, the Lee's and the Radford's of the world then??
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Everyone needs a hobby.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Indeed. I've always maintained, however, that he is good enough to be useful squad member and with time may grow into a starting player. He still has plenty of improvement left in him IMO.'"
Indeed.
Alas it may be elsewhere which is shame
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| Quote ="Kosh"Everyone needs a hobby.'"
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FWIW I can see both sides of the argument with Lee. There's no doubting that he's had a torrid time due to events beyond his control, but then again rumours persist that he doesn't exactly help himself with his attitude and social life.
I'd like to think that he's shown enough on the pitch this season to be kept on at least as a squad player and given a chance to develop further. That said, if we're in the same boat again next season he'd be better served being somewhere else TBH.
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FWIW I can see both sides of the argument with Lee. There's no doubting that he's had a torrid time due to events beyond his control, but then again rumours persist that he doesn't exactly help himself with his attitude and social life.
I'd like to think that he's shown enough on the pitch this season to be kept on at least as a squad player and given a chance to develop further. That said, if we're in the same boat again next season he'd be better served being somewhere else TBH.'"
Maybe we'll keep hold of him due to Berro's continual injury issues?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Maybe we'll keep hold of him due to Berro's continual injury issues?'"
Was just thinking that myself, depends if the deal has been done I guess.
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| Quote ="The Brother"The 8 are
Thacks,Lee,King,Motu,Maloney,Thorman,Horne,Tickle'"
Tickle Aint Going + Put G.Horne.
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| Quote ="HullFCFanForLife"Tickle Aint Going + Put G.Horne.'"
I agree with getting shut of Graham Horne but how do you know Tickle stays ??
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Was just thinking that myself, depends if the deal has been done I guess.'"
It hasn't.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"It hasn't.'"
Good news imo.
Lets hope Hull offer him another deal.
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| I have said it before and I will say it again, Tommy Lee STILL has the potential to make a very good super league player. He was thrust into the first team a little too early, through one reason or another. He had to endure some tough periods when he didn’t live up to people’s expectations and the club had to stick with him in the first team simply because they didn’t have anyone else to turn to. This didn’t do him or the club any favors, and I think knocked his development back a year or two.
Add into the mix that he has played under 3 different head coaches and that the club has bulked him up too much, something they do far too often imo, and it is not surprising that we have not seen too much of what people were expecting from Tommy Lee.
That been said, I think the kid deserves some credit for the way he has played this season, he has been pretty consistent and put some of the demons from the past two seasons to bed imo.
I hope that with the signing of Sean Long, the club sees this as a great opportunity to mould Lee back into the scrum half he should have always been. They need to let him run off some of the bulk they have stupidly put on him and use Long’s presence and experience to get Lee back to his natural game. You never know something really crazy could happen and we could have a young British scrum half chomping at the bit and ready to be our on field general for the next 5 years when Long’s stint at Hull is over.
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