Lovely, positive thread to wake up to!

We already have and we will contintue to improve under Gentle.

I've missed all the jolly banter on here.

Why do fans have a problem with Manu?

He's gone for probably more money, to SL's most successful side, with a coach who has a proven track record of improving players and where he also has some good friends.

He owes us nothing and has been superb for us.

I don't wish him luck with Saints but I hope he continues to play well.

I'm shocked too just how strong the black and white glasses can be

It's like the Dobson thing, he was the greatest player to touch a ball before Rovers, many on here would have sold children for him. Then he signs for them and people have him on a par with Marquis Charles

FC fans (especially on here) tend to be the epitome of fickle fans

Another pathetic thread to add to the ever growing list of pathetic threads.

Will Brown announce "I'm probably going home at the end of the season" 3 months into Saints season, like he has done for the last 3 YEARS at Hudds?

Brown has nothing to do with the amount of disrespect some fans have shown Manu.

Manu has been fantastic at Hull, he has also being a model professional whilst with us, the guy has moved on for whatever reason so what, nothing he has done warrants the behavior by some imo.

Manu wont win anything at St Helens, we talk about how good these Hull Fc Players are, Manu, Tickle, Briscoe ETC, how come we've won nothing with them, maybe we overrate them, let Gentle gets is team together and see what happens, the current players we've got aint done the job, so i dont care who leaves, if it means where more succesfull in the future, we aint got nothing to lose, we've been e for the last!! how many years anyway, out with the old in with new, exciting times for me

I wasn't discussing Manu, he's gone, bye and thanks.

You just have to feel for the Huddersfield fans who have had consecutive seasons undermined by Brown playing his "get out of Hudds free, maybe" card. He's a good coach, but he's about as loyal as an alley cat.

Our spine hasn't been good enough.

Most coaches are arguably the same tbh, with a club for a few years with the hope of achieving the best they can, then they move on, very few are/become what we would class as emotionally attached to the club and become totally loyal, same as a lot of players tbh, usually it is homegrown who stay at a club most of their career like Yeamo who become what we would class as loyal.

I don't have an issue with him moving on, but every season he has said "I might be going at the end of this"

I doubt it, I think he knew he had no chance of taking Hudds any further. It's different with Saints he can try and win things.

I think I'll wait and see what Brown does at Saints, they're in need of a big improvement.

What 'behaviour'? Suggesting he's gone for more money?

Where exactly have people 'disrespected' Manu? I personally can't see this anywhere on this thread, just people suggesting he's gone to Saints for more money.

you do remember who "Bet" used to be?

Yep

bit sad really

And thats the extent of your arguement?

Its not about the players at the club, its about the support net work for his family. Manu spends a lot of time with his family in west yorkshire at events with others SSI'ers and Kiwi's. Most of them are eother OOC or moving clubs.

I assume, by your comment, you have not lived that far away from where you live now? People decide to leave their home environment. give i a year or two and assess the situation. For Manu and his familiy it got better for the social side of things. Now its taken a turn for the worse and he would rather keep a happy house hold and surround himself with "his people".

Its not that difficult to understand. As I mentioned, if it was a money decision, he'd have stayed at Hull

Unless Saints offered him more money, in which case he'd have gone there.

I find it a bit strange Hull put Manu on Airlie night. Why not one of the new players like Pitts or Watts.

Why ??

I am referring to some comments on various threads since his departure was first rumoured, eg: no loyalty, greedy etc etc.

The OP was asking if Manu thought the fans were stupid as the OP appears not to believe Manu's reason for moving. In other words he is suggesting Manu is lying.