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| Quote ="Cory69"Cant expect it all in one season though? i agree about how it isn't an amazing singing but its only a 1 year deal..'"
And nor do I expect it in one season, just see the signing as completely pointless.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"And nor do I expect it in one season, just see the signing as completely pointless.'"
I guess we will see as the season pans out, Might surprise a lot of people.
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| funny how times change. i remember us signing graham mackay in 2002 when he was 33 and in a smilar position to martin - ie. a 1 year stop gap until we made a big signing (richie barnett). he ended up scoring 18 tries in 23 games and booting a few goals as well, and i don't recall too many folks moaning about this at the time
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Do you think Martin will spend most of his time out injured ?
His playing record suggests otherwise although it could always happen I guess.'"
I meant more in that Domic was clearly a very good centre and stood out in a midtable side, whereas Eagar was never anything more than solid. It spoke volumes that by the time he regained fitness he lost first his preferred side to Yeaman, then his place to Whiting. He was a stop gap signing by McRae who didn't really offer much.
Also, to be fair to Eagar on the injury front you can't really predict broken arms, and his fitness record before joining us was fine IIRC.
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| intiall reaction to this signing was very poor and very underwhelmed and personally i woudnt habe signed him but he is a solid defensive right centre that isnt bad in attack yeh hes 33 now and is a short term signing before a top right cenre comes in hopefully but also all the talk has been about improving the right side i woudnt be suprised to see will sharp been told to look for a new club with gentle bringing in a aussie winger. lets not forget we where told that gentle will bringing in and using the quota spot on a outside back now im sure martin wasnt a gentle signing and isnt a quota player so dont be suprised to see a aussie winger come in with hopefully a english forward coming in. also the like the artist says graham mackay certainly did well for us and lets not forget phelpsy did well for us last season even though he was just short term signing so lets just see how martin goes because he could be a suprise package.
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| Quote ="arliebird"intiall reaction to this signing was very poor and very underwhelmed and personally i woudnt habe signed him but he is a solid defensive right centre that isnt bad in attack yeh hes 33 now and is a short term signing before a top right cenre comes in hopefully but also all the talk has been about improving the right side i woudnt be suprised to see will sharp been told to look for a new club with gentle bringing in a aussie winger. lets not forget we where told that gentle will bringing in and using the quota spot on a outside back now im sure martin wasnt a gentle signing and isnt a quota player so dont be suprised to see a aussie winger come in with hopefully a english forward coming in. also the like the artist says graham mackay certainly did well for us and lets not forget phelpsy did well for us last season even though he was just short term signing so lets just see how martin goes because he could be a suprise package.'"
You honestly think we will sign a quota winger for 2012, when we have just signed a new centre and already have a 2 young wingers?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"You honestly think we will sign a quota winger for 2012, when we have just signed a new centre and already have a 2 young wingers?'"
like ive said all the talk has been about improving the right side and gentle was given a quota spot to go out and get an outside back now that wont be a centre now will it. as for the right wing sharp isnt good enough and lyne isnt ready and needs to go and play champ rugby
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| Quote ="arliebird"like ive said all the talk has been about improving the right side and gentle was given a quota spot to go out and get an outside back now that wont be a centre now will it. as for the right wing sharp isnt good enough and lyne isnt ready and needs to go and play champ rugby'"
Why is it not appropriate to judge Martin until he's played a game for us even though we've seen plenty of him in SL, but it is appropriate to judge Sharp on 12 games for us (I'm not going to include substitute appearances, they're a joke for a winger) and again ignore what we've seen of him elsewhere?
And if we use an overseas spot on a winger now it would be stupid, we have far greater need for a forward (and still centre IMO, but that's out of the window now).
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| I'd like to see Sharp start along side Martin next season,he showed enough in the leeds game to be given another chance IMO.
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| I think that this signing will shore up our right side a bit, which is what we need, as I think that Martin will be stronger in defence than Turner would be.
If Sharp doesn't perform, or is injured etc, what would people think to playing Turner on the wing? Because I actually think he would do well there. Ideally I'd like to see Lyne and J. Briscoe go out on dual-reg loan and gain a bit of experience.
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| Quote ="Panda92"I think that this signing will shore up our right side a bit, which is what we need, as I think that Martin will be stronger in defence than Turner would be.
If Sharp doesn't perform, or is injured etc, what would people think to playing Turner on the wing? Because I actually think he would do well there. Ideally I'd like to see Lyne and J. Briscoe go out on dual-reg loan and gain a bit of experience.'"
turner is not a winger whiting will play there instead, agree about dual reg out briscoe and lyne thats got to happen but most likely wont and dont be suprised to see a quota winger come in with sharp been told to look for another club.
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| Quote ="arliebird"turner is not a winger whiting will play there instead, agree about dual reg out briscoe and lyne thats got to happen but most likely wont and dont be suprised to see a quota winger come in with sharp been told to look for another club.'"
As it stands now, I expect Whiting to be on the bench to spell the backrowers (Manu, Tickle, Westerman) and also cover backs incase of injury. Hence I don't see him playing on the wing.
The only way I see this changing is if we sign a backrower.
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| Quote ="Panda92"As it stands now, I expect Whiting to be on the bench to spell the backrowers (Manu, Tickle, Westerman) and also cover backs incase of injury. Hence I don't see him playing on the wing.
The only way I see this changing is if we sign a backrower.'"
at the moment id have turner on teh bench rotating with backrow and cover for backs with whiting on the wing.
we need a backrow and wing
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| Quote ="arliebird"like ive said all the talk has been about improving the right side and gentle was given a quota spot to go out and get an outside back now that wont be a centre now will it. [uas for the right wing sharp isnt good enough[/u and lyne isnt ready and needs to go and play champ rugby'"
In your opinion. I think he is.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"In your opinion. I think he is.'"
Why do you think that? All of the evidence to date suggests not and at 25 it's unlikley that we'll see massive improvement .
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Why do you think that? All of the evidence to date suggests not and at 25 it's unlikley that we'll see massive improvement .'"
I think if he were to have a sustained period of time outside a quality right centre, we could see a very good winger.
Up to now, all he has had is one temporary fill-in centre after another.
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| I actually have tears running down my face, laughing at how brain dead most of you are.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Why do you think that? All of the evidence to date suggests not and at 25 it's unlikley that we'll see massive improvement .'"
He has great pace, usually beats his first man, always gives 100% and I feel he genuinely wants to improve. I think with a good centre inside him and a better coach he can progress further. Players improve all the way through their career.
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| It seems Wigan are about to sign Gareth Thomas, now I am aware Gareth comes with a lot of media interest which Wigan will want to tap into...but the fact they want to sign a 37 year old RU convert who's recent injury record isn't great shows the lack of talent available at the moment IMO.
still not happy with the Martin signing, but again I just don't think there is a queue of top class <30years old talent out there.
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| Quote ="UllFC"It seems Wigan are about to sign Gareth Thomas, now I am aware Gareth comes with a lot of media interest which Wigan will want to tap into...but the fact they want to sign a 37 year old RU convert who's recent injury record isn't great shows the lack of talent available at the moment IMO.
still not happy with the Martin signing, but again I just don't think there is a queue of top class <30years old talent out there.'"
Nail on the head there! He could be a good signing,and could help sharp (or Broughton ) no end.
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| A little underwhelmed with this signing but it seems he will be a stop gap for a year, hopefully will shore up our right side a little and pass on knowledge and experience to the likes of Turner and Crooks. Welcome to FC Tony.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"I am nothing short of disgusted at this signing !! I could not believe it when I first read it this morning. If this is AP "showing intent" then he is going to get a big surprise when passes go on sale.
I cannot think of a single reason why we have made this signing. It's the sort of signing that Widnes, Wakey, Dobbins, Bradford would make.
Lyon, Jennings, Bridge......nah..let's take a 33 year old never been who nobody else wants !
This is far worse than making no signing at all. My complete optimism was gradually disappearing each day but this is the final straw.
Forget your season pass AP ! I won't be shelling out £225 for one !!'"
your hysterical over reaction has led to mass hilarity on the dobbins board,well done
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Nail on the head there! He could be a good signing,and could help sharp (or Broughton
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Do you know something Jimmy?
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