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On the game, I see Sneyd picked up a man of Steele point, now I haven't watched the game again, but for me he wouldn't have been in my top 8 Hull players, nevermind top 3 of both teams.
I've been disappointed with Sneyd the last few games, we know he isn't creative with the ball in hand or has a good running game, but his kicking (not goal kicking) has been off.
I know he might have knock and missing his partner, but we need more from him
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| Quote ="Dave K."On the game, I see Sneyd picked up a man of Steele point, now I haven't watched the game again, but for me he wouldn't have been in my top 8 Hull players, nevermind top 3 of both teams.
I've been disappointed with Sneyd the last few games, we know he isn't creative with the ball in hand or has a good running game, but his kicking (not goal kicking) has been off.
I know he might have knock and[i missing his partner[/i, but we need more from him'"
Where is she? From Instagram she appears to be at home? |
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Quote ="ccs"Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"The RFL just can't help but shoot themselves in the foot, last night should have been a clear statement that we are a exclusive sport which is something that RL prides its self on. However to give the minimum ban, a measly fine and even worse claiming how good of a character he is just stinks and goes against every value that the sport holds dear.'"
Maybe you need to check who actually made the statement on the outcome...
https://www.rugby-league.com/article/58 ... --tribunal'"
The RFL are the governing body of the sport and have had every opportunity following the hearing be it independent or otherwise to make a clear statement on the game stance on this subject. The buck stops with them and it is not unreasonable for the RFL to be able to discuss the outcome of the hearing and deem that such a lenient view with the minimum punishment for this offence being applied is not acceptable for the good of the game and set a suitable one.
The whole situation is a complete farce and basically says as long as its said in the heat of the moment its just a little bit naughty and OK no harm done. 
The RFL have simply yet again ducked out a tough situation and to say the RFL are not to blame is for me wrong as they are and should be wholly accountable as a governing body. I would have thought a joint statement or at least some form of statement from the governing body alongside the one from the tribunal.
So for me I agree that the RFL has once again shot itself in the foot and made a mockery of the sport itself and their whole anti racism campaign because as soon as they have to act they fall short and bottle it. |
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Quote ="ccs"Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"The RFL just can't help but shoot themselves in the foot, last night should have been a clear statement that we are a exclusive sport which is something that RL prides its self on. However to give the minimum ban, a measly fine and even worse claiming how good of a character he is just stinks and goes against every value that the sport holds dear.'"
Maybe you need to check who actually made the statement on the outcome...
https://www.rugby-league.com/article/58 ... --tribunal'"
The RFL are the governing body of the sport and have had every opportunity following the hearing be it independent or otherwise to make a clear statement on the game stance on this subject. The buck stops with them and it is not unreasonable for the RFL to be able to discuss the outcome of the hearing and deem that such a lenient view with the minimum punishment for this offence being applied is not acceptable for the good of the game and set a suitable one.
The whole situation is a complete farce and basically says as long as its said in the heat of the moment its just a little bit naughty and OK no harm done.
The RFL have simply yet again ducked out a tough situation and to say the RFL are not to blame is for me wrong as they are and should be wholly accountable as a governing body. I would have thought a joint statement or at least some form of statement from the governing body alongside the one from the tribunal.
So for me I agree that the RFL has once again shot itself in the foot and made a mockery of the sport itself and their whole anti racism campaign because as soon as they have to act they fall short and bottle it. | |
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If my memory serves me correctly I think Guy Kearl, defended one of the great train robbers as well, in a very famous case. Ronnie Biggs I think.
And later as a QC he actually sentenced the infamous Charles Bronson, Bronson, who was a notorious criminal, said to Judge Guy Kearl, as he waited for his sentence, “can you get those wigs in black”
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If my memory serves me correctly I think Guy Kearl, defended one of the great train robbers as well, in a very famous case. Ronnie Biggs I think.
And later as a QC he actually sentenced the infamous Charles Bronson, Bronson, who was a notorious criminal, said to Judge Guy Kearl, as he waited for his sentence, “can you get those wigs in black”
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You might want to check who the governing body of the sport is..... |
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Where is she? From Instagram she appears to be at home?'"
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| Quote ="Dave K."icon_lol.gif You sound like a stalker.
Was taking about Reynolds'"
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If people want to take the position that it has nothing to do with the RFL because it is an independent hearing I completely agree but for me after all that has been said in support of Kick it out, Black Lives Matter etc via the governing body the least they could have done is appeal against the leniency of the ruling because for most people me included, the comparison between what happened at Wigan and grabbing someone in the balls is just not comparable.
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... I'm not taking any sides, all parties are in a very difficult position, Wigan/Clubb have yet to make any statement.
Maybe the RFL are waiting for them to respond? Even the full transcript of the hearing hasn't been made public yet.
Who knows, but I'm sure the legal profession will be involved.
I don't think Savelio's twittering before any charges had been made will have helped matters either way.
The RFL tribunal regulations are very complex...
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... I'm not taking any sides, all parties are in a very difficult position, Wigan/Clubb have yet to make any statement.
Maybe the RFL are waiting for them to respond? Even the full transcript of the hearing hasn't been made public yet.
Who knows, but I'm sure the legal profession will be involved.
I don't think Savelio's twittering before any charges had been made will have helped matters either way.
The RFL tribunal regulations are very complex...
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.................or at least distance themselves from the verdict.
the lack of a public apology is now becoming more offensive than the event itself.
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...........no direct mention or apology to the player at the centre of this. A player who was visibly upset both during and after the game.
To me it looks like the only player who's wellbeing is being considered is that of the offender and not the victim.
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| Quote ="BoothferryBoy"...........no direct mention or apology to the player at the centre of this. A player who was visibly upset both during and after the game.
To me it looks like the only player who's wellbeing is being considered is that of the offender and not the victim.'"
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...........absolutely !!
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Quote ="BoothferryBoy"...........no direct mention or apology to the player at the centre of this. A player who was visibly upset both during and after the game.
To me it looks like the only player who's wellbeing is being considered is that of the offender and not the victim.'"
He's expressed his remorse. Let's hear it then.'"
Exactly if he is indeed remorseful for what he said then by now he should have at the very least issued a statement and an apology. Its very disconcerting that Wigan have released a statement and in that it says Tony Clubb is remorseful yet no statement or public apology expressing this himself. The lack of this by now says to me that he remorseful for being caught saying it rather being remorseful for actually saying it.
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Jens Lehmann has been sacked by his German club for a racist WhatsApp message, no messing around as soon as his guilt was determined he was let go immediately, football is showing us how to deal with it.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"We just appealed in the heat of the moment, presumably.'"
More like desperation considering there was a possibility of a longer ban on a failed appeal.
If Mau was going to be fit then dont see the point but looks from this that he wont |
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| Quote ="Dave K."On the game, I see Sneyd picked up a man of Steele point, now I haven't watched the game again, but for me he wouldn't have been in my top 8 Hull players, nevermind top 3 of both teams.
I've been disappointed with Sneyd the last few games, we know he isn't creative with the ball in hand or has a good running game, but his kicking (not goal kicking) has been off.
I know he might have knock and missing his partner, but we need more from him'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"We say this about Sneyd every season but some still see him as top half back'"
Including, but not confined to, a lot of people whose opinions have some value. |
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| Quote ="bonaire"More like desperation considering there was a possibility of a longer ban on a failed appeal.
If Mau was going to be fit then dont see the point but looks from this that he wont'"
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| Quote ="ccs"Or maybe he he will, along with Reynolds.'"
yes the good news is they are both fit
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So Clubb’s penalty was reduced as whatever was said was “in the heat of the moment”. Don’t understand that. What had gone on? He was playing rugby; it’s his job.
With regard to Farrell’s head high tackle some people suggest there was no comparison with Connor’s tackle. What are they suggesting? That he executed it with such precision that he knew no damage would be done. The penalty should be for the act, not the outcome.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"I think the final score flattered Hull and expect Wigan to win again next week.
It won't matter if Reynolds does or doesn't play your best chance of scoring will as ever be Sneyd's precision diagonal kicks to the wing and of course his brilliant goalkicking.'"
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| Quote ="Homenaway"Hmmmmm....... curiously absent since Saturday - I wonder why he hasn't been back on?
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Just like the poster who appeared after every game last season to explain why we lost.
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You sound like a stalker.
