What about these comments from Sam Moa in Rugby League World magazine?

Yeah but we're gonna be great in 2012

Im 100% with you Jake. Just cant believe other people are happy with things as they are and think we can actually challenge for anything.

It just mirrors life though mate. Some people are happy because things could be worse, the rest of us see the potential and feel frustrated that we're not achieving it.

At the very least, a club the size of Hull, with all of it's resources, should go into every season with a realistic expectation of being able to get to the grand final and win it and go into every game confident they have the playing personnel and the gameplan to beat any side in the league. We're some way off that IMO

Blimey. Although we barely got a mention on the SL preview last night, and I wasn't giving it my full attention, the thing that struck me most was how Wigan's coach Maguire came across. Full of energy, determined, already parked last season and ready to go, and got the impression that with his sense of authority and gravitas, was someone you could absolutely believe had a nailed down plan and was ready to execute it. If I were a Wigan fan I'd be buzzing. The majority of the other coaches were miles off this standard. I know the competition's not won in the pre season press days, but feck me, if it were, Wigan have both trophies in the cabinet.

I just dont understand how people can be happy with things at FC at present. I went to a few games last season and was shocked at how bad we was yet people seem to think that we can realistically challenge. All i can say is these people must be happy accepting mediocrity and lack any passion if they think that we are a good team.

Whereas our coach belongs on Channel 4, Tuesdays at 9pm!

Who's saying we can challenge?

What irks me is the positivity brigade think we are lesser supporters of the team. They just don't get it IMO. We'll still be there at the bottom of NL2. Spot on post.

Beating up wimps? This is RL not the school playground!

Oh for goodness sake put that pet lip away.

You do know that nobody's actually said that, don't you?

I do not need to I am not negative!!...couple of concerns in a nutshell h/backs & light squad, but I am confident about tomorrow, and I will remain confident unless we suffer a few too many injuries.

Posters do get slated on here if they raise concerns I must admit I never particularly noticed it before but this last week has highlighted it for me, there are times when it is difficult to debate without the your so negative remarks!

Posters on both sides get slated. And those in the middle at times. It's all got a bit childish TBH.

Great programme that

Agree...I hope we win tomorrow or it could get messy round here





I do not understand why just respect each others view/concerns and enjoy the debate



If we want to get messy it should be with our silly neighbours, I mean how arrogant are they AGAIN this year

, they will only end up going in hiding if it goes pete tong for them

Haven't they? How the hell did you quote me saying it then? Is it some kind of mod special power?

I enjoy being slated. I actually think everything in the FC garden is rosy but pretend I don't so I can argue with people

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I figured that one out a long time ago!

If he's thinking about the CC then we might have a chance. We're not going to be challenging for the SL title though.

I know, imagine how bad I'd be if I were a woman

He's hardly going to say anything different in the mail though is he?

Nope. That's why I don't pay much attention to these kinds of articles. Plus I'd expect the players to be more optimistic than the fans TBH - they pretty much have to be.

IF this and IF that. Bad as we were we would have beaten Salford in 2009 CC round IF Ian Smith wasn't the only human being in Hull to miss the forward pass. That's irrelevant as well. Ifs and buts count for nowt. Fact is we were 13 mins from lifting the CC in 2008 with an 8 stone off half and a crocked stand in full back.