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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Peg and whitestar on the pre season night out
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God you're so funny !!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Peg and whitestar on the pre season night out
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And you wonder why
Did you miss the post last week from Paul M which asked posters to repond to the post, and not just attack a poster, or does it not include you
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"At the end of last season, we needed to do a number of things to our squad in order to compete with the likes of Wigan, Wire, Saints.
1) Get rid of the likes of Cusack, Dowes and Radford (or at least two of them) and improve our front row with at least one quality prop............. FAILED
2) We needed at least one half-back and also some cover there.........FAILED
3) We needed to solve our right centre problem and get some strike out there..........FAILED
4) Berrigan leaving was rumoured for a while and welcomed by many(especially me) but we needed to spend his salary on some quality............FAILED
5)We also needed to get someone in who can spell Houghton (possibly linked to the HB cover)..FAILED
But we have brought in a winger, another backrower and a utility back that no club wants !
Sharp and Westerman both have talent and potential but do we really think that we have any chance whatsoever of challenging towards the top of SL this year ??
We have become a laughing stock !!!
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WOW talk about negative imput
1) Get rid of the likes of Cusack, Dowes and Radford (or at least two of them) and improve our front row with at least one quality prop............. FAILED why failed?? [uCusack went , Radford was consistently a banger all season and dowes is rarely injured so in those two we have the stoppers and in Fitz, Omeley, Moa and Hame we have rotational yard makers[/u you have to have players who can do the ugly stuff in every team!
2) We needed at least one half-back and also some cover there.........FAILED [uwhy failed??
we have Long who is super fit right now, Horne a match away at best so we have our starting halves and then Turner, Westerman and some young guns who can step in if needed whats the issue??[/u
3) We needed to solve our right centre problem and get some strike out there..........FAILED ???? [uWe have two cracking centres already in yeaman and Whiting with a number of players who can cover if needed ??[/u 4) Berrigan leaving was rumoured for a while and welcomed by many(especially me) but we needed to spend his salary on some quality............FAILED
5)We also needed to get someone in who can spell Houghton (possibly linked to the HB cover)..FAILED [uWashy??[/u
But we have brought in a winger, another backrower and a utility back that no club wants ! [uWTF No one wanted westerman and sharp?? and Phelps has been in the system for us for over a month mate!! and all this crap being spouted about he was selling himself on twitter is bizarre at best , the lad is a cracking player that can play from 1-7 if needed with a proven record and as it happens a great full back , i shall return to this comment after the first 5/6 games see what u say then [/u
Sharp and Westerman both have talent and potential but do we really think that we have any chance whatsoever of challenging towards the top of SL this year ??
[utop three to be honest [/u We have become a laughing stock !!! unbelievable, we spend three weeks saying we must bring in cover then when we do no one is still happy
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Does it look like it gives me pleasure FFS !!!
We support a massive club which succeeds in everything it does away from the pitch but consistently fails on it. Are you seriously happy to just accept that ?
Last season, we were probably 3 or 4 quality players away from challenging for honours. After this season's "recruitment campaign" we are a million miles away. You also happy with that are you ?
You might be happy to buy your season pass and sit and clap unconditionally every weekend.
I am definately not !'"
not too long ago wigan were on the brink of relegation, then a plan was put in place and they rebuilt!!
thats the nature of pro sport
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"
Last year almost everyone on here said Cussack was a spent force, hes gone.
Last year most on here said berrigan was a waste of quota , hes gone.
Last year most on here said Tansey was a dodgy fullback , hes gone.
Last year most said Calderwood was made of balsa wood, hes gone.
we replaced these with
Westerman regarded as one of the best young prospects in Uk.
Sharp is going to be an international there is no doubting that .
Phelps who was Wigans fullback until a cruel injury then kept out by a freak of a player in Tomks
what have the club done wrong here i dont get it??
we have replaced players who were issues to many posters with good young players and all of a sudden were a shocking set up with no hope this term??
I bet the rest of SL dont see it that way
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| Dont know if its been mentioned on here, but ive recently started following Cameron on Twitter and 1 of his 'tweets' last month was 'thinks everything would be much easier if it was Black & White'....That was posted on the 31st Jan..
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Maybe more clubs should sacrifice the standard of play on the pitch in order to produce these amazing profits your club has shown recently.'"
Not in the slightest. I sincerely hope you continue with your unsustainable spending, in fact I sincerely hope you double your spending and hasten the inevitable
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| Quote Last year almost everyone on here said Cussack was a spent force, hes gone.
Last year most on here said berrigan was a waste of quota , hes gone.
Last year most on here said Tansey was a dodgy fullback , hes gone.
Last year most said Calderwood was made of balsa wood, hes gone.
we replaced these with
Westerman regarded as one of the best young prospects in Uk.
Sharp is going to be an international there is no doubting that .
Phelps who was Wigans fullback until a cruel injury then kept out by a freak of a player in Tomks
what have the club done wrong here i dont get it??
we have replaced players who were issues to many posters with good young players and all of a sudden were a shocking set up with no hope this term??
I bet the rest of SL dont see it that way'"
Wasting your time mate trying to make the 'half empty' fans to think anything but pessimism , that's just how some people are. I personally believe that this season will probably mirror last season.
We never seem to keep a squad fit, the main problem we have this season is our depth. Im pretty sure you will see us plummet down the table if we lose Long, Phelps, Horne & Westerman/Fitzy long term.
We are well overdue a season that injuries don't hit us as hard. If we can keep our squad fit, we might finish top 4 (I won't shout that too loudly, though, I might be attacked by a pessimist!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"At the end of last season, we needed to do a number of things to our squad in order to compete with the likes of Wigan, Wire, Saints.
1) Get rid of the likes of Cusack, Dowes and Radford (or at least two of them) and improve our front row with at least one quality prop............. FAILED
2) We needed at least one half-back and also some cover there.........FAILED
3) We needed to solve our right centre problem and get some strike out there..........FAILED
4) Berrigan leaving was rumoured for a while and welcomed by many(especially me) but we needed to spend his salary on some quality............FAILED
5)We also needed to get someone in who can spell Houghton (possibly linked to the HB cover)..FAILED
But we have brought in a winger, another backrower and a utility back that no club wants !
Sharp and Westerman both have talent and potential but do we really think that we have any chance whatsoever of challenging towards the top of SL this year ??
We have become a laughing stock !!!
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I think it's plain to see that we've not strengthened in some areas that we needed to and that is disappointing. We do still have a competetive squad though when we dont have injuries to key positions which is the risk. (and likely to bite us in the backside at some point)
The main question for me to ask though in relation to the failures above which i actually agree with is 'how many were failures due to us not acting and how many were failures because things just didnt work out?'
For example we cant magically make a centre or a halfback appear of the right quality and for the right price. I'm pretty sure the club will have been looking, they made a statement didnt they several months ago that they would have to focus more on 2012 recruitment because no one was available for 2011?
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| good signing this, gives you plenty of cover in your backs.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"WOW talk about negative imput
1) Get rid of the likes of Cusack, Dowes and Radford (or at least two of them) and improve our front row with at least one quality prop............. FAILED why failed?? [uCusack went , Radford was consistently a banger all season and dowes is rarely injured so in those two we have the stoppers and in Fitz, Omeley, Moa and Hame we have rotational yard makers[/u you have to have players who can do the ugly stuff in every team!
2) We needed at least one half-back and also some cover there.........FAILED [uwhy failed??
we have Long who is super fit right now, Horne a match away at best so we have our starting halves and then Turner, Westerman and some young guns who can step in if needed whats the issue??[/u
3) We needed to solve our right centre problem and get some strike out there..........FAILED ???? [uWe have two cracking centres already in yeaman and Whiting with a number of players who can cover if needed ??[/u 4) Berrigan leaving was rumoured for a while and welcomed by many(especially me) but we needed to spend his salary on some quality............FAILED
5)We also needed to get someone in who can spell Houghton (possibly linked to the HB cover)..FAILED [uWashy??[/u
But we have brought in a winger, another backrower and a utility back that no club wants !
[uWTF No one wanted westerman and sharp?? and Phelps has been in the system for us for over a month mate!! and all this crap being spouted about he was selling himself on twitter is bizarre at best , the lad is a cracking player that can play from 1-7 if needed with a proven record and as it happens a great full back , i shall return to this comment after the first 5/6 games see what u say then [/u
Sharp and Westerman both have talent and potential but do we really think that we have any chance whatsoever of challenging towards the top of SL this year ??
[utop three to be honest [/u We have become a laughing stock !!!
unbelievable, we spend three weeks saying we must bring in cover then when we do no one is still happy'"
He was not alluding to Sharp and Westerman
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| Quote ="tonylRobin"good signing this, gives you plenty of cover in your backs.'"
You have to cover your back on here bud.
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| Quote ="barton baird"You have to cover your back on here bud.
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| the recriutment has been good but all we need now is a young british backup half (gareth moore) and we still have alot of monet left over to add to the squad if someone comes available.
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| Quote ="arliebird"the recriutment has been good but all we need now is a young british backup half (gareth moore) and we still have alot of monet left over to add to the squad if someone comes available.'"
I doubt very much that Phelps has come for a year on peanuts, the only way to attract someone for a one year contract is to throw money at them, especially someone who is as brilliant as some on here are suggesting?
Also, we don't know what sacking Tansey has cost us.
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| Quote ="arliebird"we still have alot of monet '"
If we did mate,we could afford whoever we wanted,and still be in the black.
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| Quote ="Standee"I doubt very much that Phelps has come for a year on peanuts, the only way to attract someone for a one year contract is to throw money at them, especially someone who is as brilliant as some on here are suggesting?
Also, we don't know what sacking Tansey has cost us.'"
Interesting as I haven't seen one post that suggests Phelps is Brilliant.
Phelps didn't have a deal anywhere so i doubt that he will be on that hight a wage, he will be on Ok money.
He didnt really have a choice due to know one signing him and his injuries, this is better than not working at all and allows himself to be put into the shop window for 2012 or earn another contract at Hull.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"
5)We also needed to get someone in who can spell Houghton (possibly linked to the HB cover)..FAILED
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| Quote ="Standee"I doubt very much that Phelps has come for a year on peanuts, the only way to attract someone for a one year contract is to throw money at them, especially someone who is as brilliant as some on here are suggesting?
Also, we don't know what sacking Tansey has cost us.'"
Don't know what we are paying Phelps. On the one hand we were desperate for a full back but on the other he was desperate for a job! I expect both parties to have been reasonable.
As Tansey was dismissed for disciplinary reasons I doubt we paid him anything. I certainly hope not
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| Quote ="Dave K."Interesting as I haven't seen one post that suggests Phelps is Brilliant.
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| Quote ="barton baird"True,but on the pies forum he is getting good raps.'"
Yes, no doubt, a decent player and should do a good job for us.
It was more a dig at the posters exaggeration while trying to prove his point.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Not in the slightest. I sincerely hope you continue with your unsustainable spending, in fact I sincerely hope you double your spending and hasten the inevitable'"
And the inevitable is?
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| Quote ="barton baird"True,but on the pies forum he is getting good raps.'"
Correct , prior to his injury he was outstanding, not the most comfy under the high kick aparently but kick returns are as fast as anyone in SL and he runs like a 7th forward when running into traffic so all round hard case it seems with speed..
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| Quote ="Dave K."Yes, no doubt, a decent player and should do a good job for us.
It was more a dig at the posters exaggeration while trying to prove his point.'"
Well posters saying he is better than Tansey, who many claimed was good enough for international football is kind of suggesting he is pretty damn good.
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