What about Hardaker and Holmes?

Leeds done well to only be 14 down especially after that opening 20

He's cooked

Holmes 18th man, no sign of Zak

Lam been totally invisible for Leigh tonight.

From winning 68-6 to losing 38-0 shows the absolute chasm between top and bottom of the table. The whole club has so much to do in the closed season.

Wigan to win Grand Final. Saints could be dark horses

Not exactly going out on a limb there, given the history.

Bit like predicting everybody will die at the end of Hamlet, that Godot won’t arrive or that Vader is Luke’s father.

Give over. A lot tipping the big dogs to win it this year. Pundits drooling over the Dobbins. Second favourites. I just think there will bottle it.

Or that rovers haven’t won owt for 40yrs….lets see what happens with the whinging git Mingchella….

Everybody expects not-Wigan/Saints/Leeds to ‘bottle it’ every year, and they’re invariably right.

Rovers being good offers a little bit of novelty in a competition that is mostly bereft of it, and it is one of the two or three subplots that pop up each year to help get us through to the same routine and predictable conclusion of the main storyline.

I do think Rovers will get to Old Trafford. They've got a home semi which will be massive for them.

When did they last lose at home? Wire in round 4?

They have a very good chance of getting to OT, however it will only take one forward pass or a sin bin against them in the semi final to send them into meltdown.

Catalans, round 16.

Home semi tbc. Wire have got a couple of games they could run up scores in. I’d like to think we can knock over Leeds though to complete a 2024 Yorkshire slam. That’d be nice.

It’s Wigan saints , Leeds went out that conversation 10 years ago

Leeds won the grand final in 2017 and the cup in 2020, you've been out of the conversation for 40 years, easy to get confused over a few years here and there.

Dreadful decision from SKY to move the Wigan game at short notice. Gives high chance the Rovers game will be relegated to 'win a home playoff game' status rather than chance of winning the trophy. If I was a Wigan fan who works Thursday nights id be fuming.

SKY have the game by the balls, they could tell us games are on at 2am on a Tuesday morning and we'd have no say in the matter.

Sky wanting the plate award to be done on the night I guess

He who pays the piper.. and all that!
Too be fair, even the Premier League is, too a degree, subservient to the whims of Sky/TNT, and that competition has way more clout than Rugby League.
Without the Sky money RL would no longer be viable in its current set-up. We have no choice but to tug our forelock and fall in line with these sudden decisions unfortunately.

Premier League's way of handling it would have been to have the trophy at Wigan as they start the day in 1st. Having a helicopter made for great TV that time Hall won it for Leeds but then again it'll be wild winds at burger van land in September

You use words like Dobbins as a adult and can’t spell “they” so nobody will really be bothered what you think.

Even SKY havent been able to break the Premier Leagues insistance of final day games kicking off at the same time. But then again integrity of the league went out the window years ago in SL with loop games. Rovers extra win against us could stil be the deciding factor for example.

You missed the n off ”an adult” stones and glass houses etc.

Aside from the stuff they’ve won in the last decade though, the choker narrative isn’t typically applied when they go close - because of all their previous success. Like when Leeds made the GF a couple of years ago and lost, that wasn’t widely seen as bottle. Maybe it was applied to Saints when they lost 4 GFs in a row, although they may have won a CC during that period (cba to check).

The bottle thing is just to try hide how ingrained the advantage of the dominant teams is and portray their achievements as representing something more meaningful than competent use of greater resource… oh yeah, and to intensify the disappointment of our rivals - there’s so little to celebrate in SL that solace in others’ misery is entirely justified, imo.

super league needs a new winner, whether it be us salford or wire, the game has gone into an SPL, premier league esc with total domination/lockout from saints/wigan and getting very tedious to watch at the backend of the season

i think alot of people pay lip service to the GF as we always know the outcome