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| Quote ="hull2524"Blame the coach yes. Penny always stops with him. But the players again downing tools to get rid of the coach. How many times we seen this ?.'"
Are they though or is that Smith just isn’t up to the job? Quite honestly there is absolutely nothing to suggest he nor whenever implementing anything since they arrived and I dare say we’d see little difference if they were released and we ran a team that didn’t train and just turned on game day.
Why would an experienced coach pick a player that is in the very last throw of his career and struggling with a hamstring issue for the past couple of weeks? Not only that but try and flog him for 80 mins?
I think Smirh has been found out and is past it & the game has past him by now. On top of them at we have an owner that has clearly lost interest and is now doing what Hetherington did in minimum outlay and maximum extraction of money for personal gain.
We will get absolutely mullered on Friday and there is no life in the club at all, it is rotten to the core.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"It won'y be just him who doesn't see the end of the season. The rumblings on here suggest support for the whole rotten setup is dwindling and unless there's a mega change in the situation they'll be playing in front of vastly reduced crowds come Septembert'"
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"It won'y be just him who doesn't see the end of the season. The rumblings on here suggest support for the whole rotten setup is dwindling and unless there's a mega change in the situation they'll be playing in front of vastly reduced crowds come Septembert'"
Exactly who in their right mind would re new for next season other than blind loyalty? I can’t see many doing that at all.
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| According to Smith everyone he comes across thinks he is doing a good job, you are all with him and there is no issue. I don’t know a sole or read anywhere anyone who thinks this. Is he delusional?
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| Quote ="The Cooke Report"According to Smith everyone he comes across thinks he is doing a good job, you are all with him and there is no issue. I don’t know a sole or read anywhere anyone who thinks this. Is he delusional?'"
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| Quote ="Chris71"Are they though or is that Smith just isn’t up to the job? Quite honestly there is absolutely nothing to suggest he nor whenever implementing anything since they arrived and I dare say we’d see little difference if they were released and we ran a team that didn’t train and just turned on game day.
We will get absolutely mullered on Friday and there is no life in the club at all, it is rotten to the core.'"
We all know, fairly obviously, that we don't have the greatest of teams right now, but even with everything that has happened so far this year this squad (as low-quality as it is) surely isn't as bad as these past two weeks seem to indicate?
No black & white was ever expecting this squad to be challenging for honours this year, but tonight we find ourselves somewhere below our lowest hopes for the season. We've suffered consecutive fifty point defeats to two sides who, with all respect, are themselves unlikely to be top dogs come September. It's not as if we've just been thrashed by Wigan and Saints (we still have those joys to come).
I tried to stay positive for as long as possible, hoping that this was all part of some rebuild which would at least bear some fruit, but Smith has to go. Whatever he is doing (or isn't doing), whether it's because the players simply aren't listening (or have gone on strike effectively) or whether it's because he has just lost the plot completely, there has to be a change somewhere in the set-up and quick. I know this is a bottom four squad, but as the very least they should be competitive with an ability to carry out the basics to at least a level of competency. The fact they can't has to be laid at Smith's door.
This is now beyond merely a bad run of results, we are in an existential crisis in which the continued future of the club as a viable force within the game is now at stake. The next few months could, potentially, decide whether or not Hull Fc remain as a functioning RL club, it has now become, in my eyes, that serious.
I'm with you Chris, if need be sack the entire coaching staff and the players can take it in turn every Thursday afternoon to pick that week's 18 man squad. It couldn't produce a bigger shambles than what we are witnessing right now.
This forum shows that a significant section of the club's hard-core supporter base are on the verge of walking away from a club that, in some cases, they have followed for decades.
The time for action, something, anything, is right now or the consequences could be absolutely catastrophic.
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| Quote ="BP1"
This forum shows that a significant section of the club's hard-core supporter base are on the verge of walking away from a club that, in some cases, they have followed for decades.
The time for action, something, anything, is right now or the consequences could be absolutely catastrophic.'"
Well maybe but lets be honest there are a couple of dozen regular posters on here so that's a tiny percentage of the fan base. It may or not be representative.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well maybe but lets be honest there are a couple of dozen regular posters on here so that's a tiny percentage of the fan base. It may or not be representative.'"
While that may be true, I go in a pub before and after with a good number of regular fans and the general consensus is this will be their last season, with FC as bad they are and the rules as they are going to be next year too. Adam has to be really careful as if this form continues it will certainly hit pass sales, people have had enough.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well maybe but lets be honest there are a couple of dozen regular posters on here so that's a tiny percentage of the fan base. It may or not be representative.'"
Not me. I’ll never quit on the club. I’ve supported them for 49 years, I live in Rugby and am a season ticket holder. It’s a 5 hour round trip for home games for me and I’ll probably do half the away games too.
I know we’ll probably get thrashed on Friday, but I’ll be their v Huddersfield and still be there in the 80th minute.
It pains me how poor we are at the moment, but I love the club, our fans and the day out.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Smith & Stanley OUT and Tarquin and his Barometer IN.'"
I’ll give you Barometer - you rassclaat
We don’t need a 9 game barometer this season
I said it in this thread - it’s going to get much worse and it won’t
Get better !! Sometimes we have Hope - this time we don’t
Smith will be gone after Good Friday - I’ll stake my
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IF not then it’s so very clear that Adam has also
Given in and has no cash to pay Tony off
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Adam hasn’t got the cash to pay his contract up
So we are going to be like Cas Tigers all season
At least we can now see every game on Sky - that’s a real bonus
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well maybe but lets be honest there are a couple of dozen regular posters on here so that's a tiny percentage of the fan base. It may or not be representative.'"
Check out Facebook - that’s a much bigger forum
They’re not happy at all and use much more colourful
Language !
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Check out Facebook - that’s a much bigger forum
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Well the Facebook group has always been very excitable.
Most supporters who say they've had enough and are stopping going / giving it up don't mean it.
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| Just watched the trys, first 3 all could have been stopped, terrible dealing with kicks.
One intercept
One try from a pass a metre forward.
Who was on the right wing when Martin went off, was it Okunbor at centre and Mcintosh on the wing?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Just watched the trys, first 3 all could have been stopped, terrible dealing with kicks.
One intercept
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Who was on the right wing when Martin went off, was it Okunbor at centre and Mcintosh on the wing?'"
I'll say this about Okunbor, wherever he plays he manages to avoid getting involved in any work. He's an absolute fraud.
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| Also just watched the highlights, absolutely disgraceful defending, no rushing up, just letting the hudds players come to them, then not really being bothered to tackle or chase back any Hudds breaks
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| Quote ="Steve0"Also just watched the highlights, absolutely disgraceful defending, no rushing up, just letting the hudds players come to them, then not really being bothered to tackle or chase back any Hudds breaks'"
The first couple of tries were a bit unlucky, difficult kicks to do anything about, and Huddersfield improvised well. The one Tindall didn't deal with was a poor individual error by him, and the intercept is what it is.
The rest of the tries ranged from a bit soft, to absolutely pathetic. Some of them reminded me of having games with my mates as a kid, and by the end everyone is a bit tired and bored and people are just walking in tries without anyone really bothering to stop them.
Where is the professional pride? Even if you know you probably can't stop the try you should still be busting a gut in an attempt to. All teams have off days, but you never, ever, see a Wigan or St Helens defend like that, even when they are getting well beat. If that's the culture Smith is trying to install then we are in serious trouble.
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| Jesus just watched the highlights - not one of them looks interested. How can Pearson believe that can be turned around? The whole team looks like its totally demoralised. There has to be serious issues with the coaching for a team to play like this - its staring you right there in your face! As bad as this team is its not as bad as that performance imo.
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| The almost 6 min. highlight package I watched did not bother showing the Hull try.
Attendance looked pretty sp.!
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| Quote ="Freddie Miller."The almost 6 min. highlight package I watched did not bother showing the Hull try.
Attendance looked pretty sp.!'"
1,600. Only two games got over 5k and even they were well down (7k at Leeds instead of the usual 15k for example)
Ths Cup cant carry on with this format, all the games will have lost money this weekend. SL teams need to go in a round earlier again with the lowest ranked team at home for some different scenery at least. Also we might win a game against a League1 team
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| Quote ="UllFC"1,600. Only two games got over 5k and even they were well down (7k at Leeds instead of the usual 15k for example)
Ths Cup cant carry on with this format, all the games will have lost money this weekend. SL teams need to go in a round earlier again with the lowest ranked team at home for some different scenery at least. Also we might win a game against a League1 team
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IMG wanted to make changes to it, but there seemed to be objections to it...and here we are
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| Quote ="Steve0"IMG wanted to make changes to it, but there seemed to be objections to it...and here we are'"
Doesn't surprise me. Part of the problem with the sport is that nobody ever seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet. And on the occasions when they are, it lasts a season or two at best.
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| Quote ="Roam Ranger"Doesn't surprise me. Part of the problem with the sport is that nobody ever seems to be singing from the same hymn sheet. And on the occasions when they are, it lasts a season or two at best.'"
Yeh Completely agree even by challenge cup standards those attendances are abysmal and only two/ three games on TV so they can't blame that. We bring in a multi million pound organisation who are top of the tree internationally for sports promotion and development and then over rule them when they indicate the way they think the game should go!! Same scenario with size of Super League and getting rid of loop fixtures. I think for a lot of uninitiated folk the game is getting boring.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Yeh Completely agree even by challenge cup standards those attendances are abysmal and only two/ three games on TV so they can't blame that. We bring in a multi million pound organisation who are top of the tree internationally for sports promotion and development and then over rule them when they indicate the way they think the game should go!! Same scenario with size of Super League and getting rid of loop fixtures. I think for a lot of uninitiated folk the game is getting boring.'"
Although, wasn't one of IMGs proposals a two legged challenge cup match? Imagine if we had to go in for a second innings this week at 50-4 down
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| Quote ="Steve0"Although, wasn't one of IMGs proposals a two legged challenge cup match? Imagine if we had to go in for a second innings this week at 50-4 down'"
We could play “Taz”ball but knowing Smith,He’d declare when we get close to hudds score.
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