How is signing Naughton a mistake? He is not on big wages, & he is cover in the outside backs, what happens if we have injuries to our 1,6,7 & maybe a winger? We have cover with these utilitity players, Pryce is experience to train/play alongside these young members of the squad to show them what's needed at certain times of the game.

You don't know the first thing about the guy, I bet you had never even heard of him before we signed him. How can it possibly be seen as a mistake? At worst he provides cover, but there's also a possibility he will be twice as good as Shaul. Not to mention he's young, English, fairly cheap and has experience of playing in Aus.

As for Pryce. He will be here for 2 years and then retire. If Rankin is seen as the future of the club then that timing is perfect for him to serve as his understudy and then take over.

I would have also been happy with Rankin and Sneyd as if happens. But consider also that our full back is 22, our LF 24 and our back up halves both 18. It doesn't give us much experience in those creative positions.

I don't need to know anything about him aside from the positions he is supposed to be covering. We already have adequate cover in the positions he covers so his signing is a mistake/pointless.
If you think he is twice as good as Shaul then you clearly haven't got a clue about rugby league. No player is ever twice as good at this level, that just isn't possible and whilst I don't think Shaul is in top 5 of SL fullbacks he's a very decent player. If the intention was to replace Shaul then the coach would be making that clear from the outset but then you wouldn't understand either from your comment. That this amazingly talented twice as good as Shaul player has gone massively under the radar to all & sundry suggests that he just isn't.
And as for your creative comment re the halves, well I would never put Pryce in the creative dept and frankly age has got nothing to do with creativity. A player has it or they don't, the coach alllows a player to be creative or they don't (and with Radford at the helm that'll be a won't/don't) again that's something you clearly don't have any concept of...

Oh and Easthullfc fan, exactly how much is he on or are you guessing again re individuals salaries?

naughton will be on a pittance and looks like he could be a good prospect so well worth a punt IMO

Good post - I can't see any impartial supporters disagreeing.

I would say Greg inglis is twice as good as Greg eden, I would say Cameron Smith is twice as good as Paul Mcshane, I would say Curtis Naughton is on a very little salary, & are you assuming our HBs won't be creative whilst ears is in charge or do you know this for sure???

1. Do we really have adequate cover? As I see it we have one other fullback in the squad (Rankin) who will more than likely also be required to play in the halves and at 9. You want him to play 6 anyway. Naughton is a young player who won't be costing much money and could turn out to be a star. Until we get to see him play you can't possibly say that it's a mistake. If we let him go now and in 3 years he's playing for England you would be on here criticising the club and you know it.

2. I have no idea how good he is. Like yourself I have never seen him play before.

3. "Good" isn't a quantifiable unit of measurement. It's totally subjective. I could tell you that he is 5,000,000 times better and you couldn't prove me wrong, because there's nothing to measure it by. Or have I missed something and Shaul is 46 on the goodness scale and Naughton only 39?

4. By creative roles I am talking about pivots. 1, 6, 7 and in our case 13. We have no real experience in any of those areas if you take Pryce out of the equation.

5. What is your definition of creative? Pryce might not be your old fashioned 5' 6 cheeky half back and he might run the ball better than he kicks it. But ever since he was moved to the halves he has more than held his own in all the stats you would typically gauge creativity by.

But no you're right. I'm the one who doesn't know anything about rugby.

He was in the top three for try assists in Super League until Laurent Frayssinous decided to not select players who weren't staying. In 2013 he made the top ten in the league for try assists (and was top for Catalans, twice as many as their next highest, Bosc).

Try assists does not automatically equal being creative..Richard horne was top of our try assists and yet none on here would say he was creative so stop talking b0llocks.

Eloquent as ever.

And it was Rankin. Horne was third, behind Houghton. I actually check facts before posting.

Again. Define creative.

A creative player creates tries and chances. That is what Pryce has done all his career. As long as he makes things happen it doesn't matter how he does it.

I'm far superior than you in the use of the English language but on occasion stupidty deserved a blunt instrument but thanks



I wasn't specifically talking about just last season..and per game he (Horne) played he was right up there in try assists for us..check your facts

And you make the point that Rankin was top of try assists so by your reckoning we have a creative back, so why the need for a 33 year has being like Pryce?
He isn't 'creative' in the true sense of what it means, yes Pryce can do the try assist thing but we already have Rankin whom can play there, has more speed and frankly much more enthusiastic/consistant.

Pryce and/or Naughton are mistakes and players we just don't need. We are short in the props dept IMO and we really needed a monster badass prop. Unless we are going to ask Eliis to do that role which would be another mistake. Lack of another decent prop will bite us next year.

Rankin has attitude and enthusiasm. 2 things you cannot coach.

He gets stuck in and can play 2 or 3 positions. I'd like to see him given another 3 years.

Far superior [uto[/u you....

Was told a while ago when we signed naughton that he is mainly for 2016 as shaul is going to aus after this season , to roosters . So maybe there's some kind of deal already between both clubs that we know nothing about .

Who on earth told you that rubbish?

What difference would it make if I give you a name . And how do you know it's rubbish , Jamie !!

you still haven't explained what you mean by the word "creative", if someone who makes tries and try scoring chances with passes, kicks or direct runs etc, then what is a creative player?

And you claim to be superior in the use of English?



Your constant stream of negativity is clouding your judgement.

The same Jamie Shaul who signed a five year contract a matter of months ago?

If its true, which I very much doubt, he would command a huge fee.

Agree 100% with you there

Naughton is a educated punt. Nothing to do with shaul moving as far as I know. Naughton became available. Cheap. Real potential to be something special.
One of our coaching staff described him as a 'freak' said he's unbelievably strong. Also put out impressive sprint times &the fact he's played England through the youth ages. Played reserve grade at one of the big nrl teams, from what I've heard read n seen I've got a good feeling for him!

Whilst I don't necessarily agree with the whole scenario, I do tend to agree with Pryce. think his salaray would have been much better spent elsewhere.

Rankin was a young lad who didn't really have an off season.
Now he's settled n will get an off season I'd like to think he can do good things for us.
I'd use a bench spot on him. Could change the tempo of a game. How he's used is yet to be seen tho.