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| Quote ="Saf"Can we please close all other threads and just have one called "Agar out" until he has gone? It is getting rather tedious on here.
How about we had no Fitz again ( our leader on the pitch), no Westy(our player of the season for me and of our most creative players) and no Long , our no1 halfback.
More excuses I know, but some pretty valid reasons for not quite being where we need to be against the top teams.
I know most dont want to here it but will have pivots coming out of our ears next year.'"
Sorry but you can't wheel out that same old excuse. Clubs get injuries (yes to key pivitol players) but other clubs seem to handle this much better than we do. Lets face it we have had plenty of practice to overcome these obstacles.
The bottom line is we are a mediocre club with little ambition but to reach "the 8". We accept and almost encourage minimum achievements, we don't look to strive to be the best. The fundemantal probelms at the club are;
1. The coaching set up
2. The culture and mentality
Until both are fixed with or without a fully fit team we aint going nowhere.
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| With the amount of competition they have Wire must be paying big money to get these youngsters.
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| The fact of the matter is we cannot match the intensity that other teams seem to be able create. We can be very competitive (at times) but we cannot sustain it for long enough to change the course of a game without luck.
Wigan were lucky last night, but it was luck of their own making; right decisions at the right time etc.
We're lacking in the basics; accurate passing at speed, support play, an organised (sliding) defence and most of all a game plan B.
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| The team are built in, and play in, the image of the boring, uninspiring individual we have as head coach
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way":weye6v5hSorry but you can't wheel out that same old excuse. Clubs get injuries (yes to key pivitol players) but other clubs seem to handle this much better than we do. Lets face it we have had plenty of practice to overcome these obstacles.
The bottom line is we are a mediocre club with little ambition but to reach "the 8". We accept and almost encourage minimum achievements, we don't look to strive to be the best. The fundemantal probelms at the club are;
1. The coaching set up
2. The culture and mentality
Until both are fixed with or without a fully fit team we aint going nowhere.'"
I agree with you, and for what it is worth, Wigan where here in Hull on Thursday night while, I remember our team coach racing throught the traffic approaching an opponent's ground last season with about an hour to go before kick-off.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The team are built in, and play in, the image of the boring, uninspiring individual we have as head coach'"
Exactly! And when he eventually goes every last one of the coaching and conditioning teams should go as well. A complete change is the only thing that will have any chance of creating a new dynamic and passionate culture that we need to match the passion on the terraces - which has been worn down by this clown over the last 3 years or so.
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| I couldn`t make the game because of other commitments.The thing that worries me,I didn`t miss the fact I wasn`t there.
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| We should all stop starting new threads and just re-start the one form the previous week, lets face it nothing changes.
Agar will come out with great effort from the lads but our decsion making let us down speak again in the Mail on Monday. (yeah same every week so what do we do at training exactly)
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The team are built in, and play in, the image of the boring, uninspiring individual we have as head coach'"
Just how many times do we have to have the" Ball back inside move" . It's slow, predictable and it seems the only move we know.
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"The fact of the matter is we cannot match the intensity that other teams seem to be able create. We can be very competitive (at times) but we cannot sustain it for long enough to change the course of a game without luck.
Wigan were lucky last night, but it was luck of their own making; right decisions at the right time etc.
We're lacking in the basics; accurate passing at speed, support play, an organised (sliding) defence and most of all a game plan B.'"
Agreed.
We must have the worse passing game in Super League, most of our passes in each set are either too high or around the ground, surely passing is something they do everyday in training.
I'm hoping Herminia makes a difference in this area because distribution from dummy half is crucial and ours is horrendous.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Agreed.
We must have the worse passing game in Super League, most of our passes in each set are either too high or around the ground, surely passing is something they do everyday in training.
I'm hoping =#0000FFHerminia makes a difference in this area because distribution from dummy half is crucial and ours is horrendous.'"
Is that the lass from Harry Potter?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Is that the lass from Harry Potter?'"
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Think even she'd be better than what we've currently got!
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| Quote ="Suzie"opps!!
Think even she'd be better than what we've currently got!'"
I'm just reeling from her being a hooker. Thought she'd be set for life after that franchise.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Agreed.
We must have the worse passing game in Super League, most of our passes in each set are either too high or around the ground, surely passing is something they do everyday in training.
I'm hoping Herminia makes a difference in this area because distribution from dummy half is crucial and ours is horrendous.'"
Our hooker and half backs are shocking passers of the ball
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| what has happened to brian noble on feb 22 dobbo told us if hudds beat us nobby would be in charge "trust me my source dosent get any better than this" we were told was this an early april fool!!!!!
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| Quote ="Suzie"Agreed.
We must have the worse passing game in Super League, most of our passes in each set are either too high or around the ground, surely passing is something they do everyday in training.
I'm hoping Herminia makes a difference in this area because distribution from dummy half is crucial and ours is horrendous.'"
Danny Houghton's a fantastic player, but he needs to work on his passing off the floor; that pass to Tickle on Wigan's line being an example, add to that poor timing of the run/pass and you just get the feeling we're not prioritising these areas of the game enough.
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| Yep I agree - Houghten's passing from dummy half is rubbish and makes us very slow from the PTB.
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| It's the random drop offs to be honest they just slow us down and don't ever let the backs get involved
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| Quote ="B0NES"Just how many times do we have to have the" Ball back inside move" . It's slow, predictable and it seems the only move we know.'"
Williams was doing it in the u-20's as well.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Williams was doing it in the u-20's as well.'"
I think I counted four in the set leading up to Tomkins 2nd try.
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| Quote ="ZXWalkingDisasterXZ"It's the random drop offs to be honest they just slow us down and don't ever let the backs get involved'"
Spot on. They're utterly pointless, in fact counter-productive.
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| God only know's what they do in training. In fact I wonder if anyone has ever actually broken sweat at an Agar led session.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"God only know's what they do in training. In fact I wonder if anyone has ever actually broken sweat at an Agar led session.'"
apparently they get quite panicky when they run out of B&H
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"Wasnt it something like Hull FC 0 - 42 Wigan last year at your place?
Step by step boys
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Admire your cockiness but lose a few games and the wigan walk will be trendy again
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| Quote ="B0NES"I think I counted four in the set leading up to Tomkins 2nd try.'"
Maybe Horne is training the young kids - god help us if this is true!
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