I agree conditions are playing a part but other teams have still offloaded the ball far more than we have. Cant really complain as we are winning games but I think with a few more offloads we will start putting a lot of points on teams. Tansey, Long, Horne etc are always on the shoulder for an offload but none seem to be coming at the moment.

Debatable.

Not just conditions but opponents as well. Two very good teams.
We had 4 offloads against Saints so 8 against Hudds lets hope for 16 against Crusaders

5 drives and a kick is not debatable

It's the one part of our game so far that has been lacking, it must improve as 2nd phase possession is vital when breaking teams down. That said the coniditions are not great right now so maybe we are being sensible in not trying too many.

Phew! Good job I wasn't debating it then.

That's how I'm looking at it for now. Just hope we don't get stuck in the routine of safety first rugby.

12 offloads in 401 carries is closer to 3% than 0.02% No wonder you're not a fan of stats.



0.02% would mean 1 offload per 5000 carries, or on the basis of 200 carries per game, 1 offload in 25 games or once every season. (more if we have a good cup run or make the playoffs obviously)

you win the prize for being the first to notice. Stat geek

Not that i am comparing us to Melbourne Storm but for the past 3 seasons they have came last in the amount of offloads category.

With Raynor gone thats a big chunk as he was one of our most prolific off loaders.

Good point. As well as sometimes been great plays, they are also responsible for a lot of errors and gifting the opposition the ball back. So a conservative style is sometimes more suited.

The most impressive stat for me so far this year is the Tries Against figure of 3! Considering we have played 2 of last years top 3 teams that stat is mighty impressive.

If Hull maintain these high standards in defence then they have got one hell of a platform to build upon.

Good point, If you remember 2006 season we had a 12 or something winning streak built on the back solid defence.

Think it was 16 games, beating every team in the league along the way. Mind you, we had a few close calls and a bit of luck, probably using most of ours up for the next 3 seasons.

Definately thought on Friday that we would of lost that game last year and more than likely the season before, even after getting a 12 point lead.

another good stat is no missed kicks at goal yet. those little 2 pointers all add up and certainly got us some breathing space on friday

Helps having the most prolific points scoring forward in NRL history as our reserve kicker.

Another interesting stat is that Fitzgibbon made 51 tackles on Friday night and 21 carries to go with his 34 & 23 from Saints. Could he top 1000 tackles this year at the tender age of 32?

Surprisingly he only averages 5.77m per carry (254m & 44 carries).

Lazy sod

Takes hell of alot of players and energy to bring him down though, just like Yak does.

If i'm not mistaken, Fitz is top in the league for carries and tackles for the 10 teams that have only played twice.





EDIT - Just seen on another thread, Dallas Johnson has made more tackles than him. Oh well, at least he has a nice shiny head

Even more impressive is when you consider how these tries came about. Saints got their two when we were wrongly down to 12 men.

As for Hudders, their only try came when they got a penalty when we were on our 1st tackle (anyone know what it was Lauaki actually did to concede that penalty????) enabling them to start their set inside our 10.

So you can make the case that we've yet to concede a genuine try with 13 men on the pitch.....having played two decent teams.

Liking it

Lauaki mouthed off to the ref. Told him he smelt of garlic

Yeah but they have Slater, Cronk and Inglis to name but three.

All im saying is that they play a really basic game untill they get in the 20 then they have so many set plays and such a good kicking game sides tend to crack after periods of pressure.