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| Feel real sorry for Rich to be let down in such a manner. Top bloke, didn't deserve that.
AP must realise now he is flogging a dead horse, its going to be a long long season.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC" as coach he must now realise that some of his so-called backup forwards are way below the required level. '"
I knew that last year and it worries me that he and Last didn't , it's not as though they weren't part of the set up last year after all! With one or two exceptions last season our pack were beaten by the opposition losing ground both defensively and offensively in nearly every tackle. O'Meley was the one forward that other teams worried about and he couldn't maintain his game for more than about 10 minutes at a time , understandably. The Featherstone props at least looked like prop forwards even if it was us that made them look like World beaters. Our forwards that played yesterday looked lightweight and ineffectual. To have even an average season we're going to rely on Mick Paea playing big minutes every week and not getting injured and Feka getting back to his Wigan form. Both are unlikley.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"I knew that last year and it worries me that he and Last didn't , it's not as though they weren't part of the set up last year after all! With one or two exceptions last season our pack were beaten by the opposition losing ground both defensively and offensively in nearly every tackle. O'Meley was the one forward that other teams worried about and he couldn't maintain his game for more than about 10 minutes at a time , understandably. The Featherstone props at least looked like prop forwards even if it was us that made them look like World beaters. Our forwards that played yesterday looked lightweight and ineffectual. To have even an average season we're going to rely on Mick Paea playing big minutes every week and not getting injured and Feka getting back to his Wigan form. Both are unlikley.'"
If you’re hoping for big minutes from Paea then you’ll be disappointed, my only criticism of him was his lack of effective on the pitch time. He’s fantastic for a 15 minute spell then it tails off quickly and he becomes an easy target for attackers. For me the biggest loss you’ll have will be Lynch, 80 minute props are hard to come by he took me as a real grafter.
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Radford has got the job he wanted. The players have got the coach they wanted. Time for both to stop making excuses and start delivering.'"
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Feel real sorry for Rich to be let down in such a manner. Top bloke, didn't deserve that.
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I think that there's something to be said for staging a knock-about novelty exhibition game for testimonials. It's not like pre-season friendlies are a big draw in their own right. Play a sort-of low impact, low-risk half-contact game, allowing the some of the player's retired mates to turn out for extra nostalgia. Motu Tony, for example maybe or Paul King or any number of others. You could even have Nick Barmby or Luke Campbell or somebody do a little spell on the wing, if they were up for it. It'd be a bit daft, but that'd be part of the fun. You're at least guaranteed a celebtratory atmosphere.
Johann Cruyff's Ajax testimonial in 1978 (during his second spell there) was won 8-0 by Bayern Munich, so RW is in good company at least.
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| Quote ="barham red"If you’re hoping for big minutes from Paea then you’ll be disappointed, my only criticism of him was his lack of effective on the pitch time. He’s fantastic for a 15 minute spell then it tails off quickly and he becomes an easy target for attackers. For me the biggest loss you’ll have will be Lynch, 80 minute props are hard to come by he took me as a real grafter.'"
Which is why he said "both are unlikely"!
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Not a good idea for Radford to start publicly criticising the players so early. Signs of his inexperience here.
No mention of him accepting any of the responsibility for what happened yesterday.
Radford has got the job he wanted. The players have got the coach they wanted. Time for both to stop making excuses and start delivering.'"
Bingo mate that last bit.
I'd threaten westerman and watts with doncaster (no offence to Donny) unless they start to step up to the plate
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"I think that there's something to be said for staging a knock-about novelty exhibition game for testimonials. It's not like pre-season friendlies are a big draw in their own right. Play a sort-of low impact, low-risk half-contact game, allowing the some of the player's retired mates to turn out for extra nostalgia. Motu Tony, for example maybe or Paul King or any number of others. You could even have Nick Barmby or Luke Campbell or somebody do a little spell on the wing, if they were up for it. It'd be a bit daft, but that'd be part of the fun. You're at least guaranteed a celebtratory atmosphere.
Johann Cruyff's Ajax testimonial in 1978 (during his second spell there) was won 8-0 by Bayern Munich, so RW is in good company at least.'"
Neil Hudgell played in Paul Fletchers testimonial game. I remember Johny Vegas playing in a Saints one, think it was Cunninghams. Thinking back to the 80s I recall a referee putting a shirt on and the Rovers pack smashing him. Think it was Ronnie Campbell but could be wrong.
One of the best testimonial games I have been to was Jamie Carraghers. Liverpool played Everton. Both teams started with full sides but only really played at 80%. Then Liverpool started bringing on ex team mates of Carragher and some old Liverpool legends. Everton put on their youth side. One of the linesman wore an Everton shirt and didn't give Liverpool anything all day. Carragher even took a penalty for Everton. It was just good fun which is what Testimonials should be. Whitings big day was ruined yesterday and its a crying shame for such a loyal clubman, and good player.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Bingo mate that last bit.
I'd threaten westerman and watts with doncaster (no offence to Donny) unless they start to step up to the plate'"
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| Dont think Rich has much to be upset about
Whilst the team he has given 10 years loyal service failed to turn up, the town he grew up in and where all the family still live, the team he supported as a young lad, the team where he played as a young boy, the team that gave him his break and his chance and the team that he may end up finishing his career at as well as offering to stage the game when the KC couldnt and have offered any further assistance if required with the testamonial kept their end of the bargain and were competitive and put on a decent show for him both on and off the field which im sure he wouldve hoped for
Alright the result or the manner in which the result occured is probably not the way it was supposed to go but for the day as a whole - his only two professional clubs, a decent crowd, decent weather, decent atmosphere, i think he will be delighted
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I'd threaten westerman and watts with doncaster (no offence to Donny) unless they start to step up to the plate'"
Would Cookey take them ?
He rightly indicated he would not tolerate any attitude from Hull players and they would be sent back with Radfords blessing.
They both think that they are stars but are wide of the mark.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Neil Hudgell played in Paul Fletchers testimonial game. I remember Johny Vegas playing in a Saints one, think it was Cunninghams. Thinking back to the 80s I recall a referee putting a shirt on and the Rovers pack smashing him. Think it was Ronnie Campbell but could be wrong.
One of the best testimonial games I have been to was Jamie Carraghers. Liverpool played Everton. Both teams started with full sides but only really played at 80%. Then Liverpool started bringing on ex team mates of Carragher and some old Liverpool legends. Everton put on their youth side. One of the linesman wore an Everton shirt and didn't give Liverpool anything all day. Carragher even took a penalty for Everton. It was just good fun which is what Testimonials should be. Whitings big day was ruined yesterday and its a crying shame for such a loyal clubman, and good player.'"
Aye, for Netherton's I'd think the prospect of seeing the likes of Iain Morrison, Stanley Gene, Makali Aizue, Shaun Briscoe, Chris Chester, even trotting about at half-pelt, would be more attractive/special than a preparatory game for a mix of kids and fringe first teamers. The latter are important and necessary, but not really an 'event'.
Jonny Vegas dropped the ball with the tryline begging, I vaguely recall, to much good natured derision.
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| Quote ="Fevxr2i"Dont think Rich has much to be upset about
Whilst the team he has given 10 years loyal service failed to turn up, the town he grew up in and where all the family still live, the team he supported as a young lad, the team where he played as a young boy, the team that gave him his break and his chance and the team that he may end up finishing his career at as well as offering to stage the game when the KC couldnt and have offered any further assistance if required with the testamonial kept their end of the bargain and were competitive and put on a decent show for him both on and off the field'"
Yes Fev were a credit to Rich, however it was all let down by that f**k**g drummer
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Yes Fev were a credit to Rich, however it was all let down by that f**k**g drummer
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Well you will be pleased to know if we meet again and we come to you, be it in the cup, SL or the middle 8 the drum wont be making an appearance as its too large to carry about
However if you come to us.......
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| All will be forgotten after we run Catalan close.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"radford's monday rant. I'm told it will become a HDM weekly column
[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-Angry-coach-Lee-Radford-says-approach/story-20548881-detail/story.htmlHERE[/url'"
No surprise that we have non-professional players when our scouting system seems so bad, and we've had that for several years under different coaches and both Hetherington & now Pearson. Every year we get desperate and sign players up out of desperation, not checking what their off the field attitude is like and with several players (Dykes being the most prominent example) we don't seem to do much in terms of medicals either.
We knew that Liam Watts was disruptive of the field for example, but we still brought him in mid-season because we 'needed a prop' instead of checking that he was the type of professional we needed.
I appreciate that since SL's gone to 14 teams, and the Aussies & Kiwi's have stopped coming that there are less quality players to pick from...and that sometimes you have to gamble on a player, but we seem worst than most teams for bringing in players that are either not up to it, injured, like a drink or 10 or have off field issues.
in the last couple of years alone we've released the likes of Holdsworth, Seymour, O'Carroll, Johnson, McKinnon, Jamie Ellis, Lynch, Obst...its like a revolving door!
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| Quote ="UllFC"No surprise that we have non-professional players when our scouting system seems so bad, and we've had that for several years under different coaches and both Hetherington & now Pearson. Every year we get desperate and sign players up out of desperation, not checking what their off the field attitude is like and with several players (Dykes being the most prominent example) we don't seem to do much in terms of medicals either.
We knew that Liam Watts was disruptive of the field for example, but we still brought him in mid-season because we 'needed a prop' instead of checking that he was the type of professional we needed.
I appreciate that since SL's gone to 14 teams, and the Aussies & Kiwi's have stopped coming that there are less quality players to pick from...and that sometimes you have to gamble on a player, but we seem worst than most teams for bringing in players that are either not up to it, injured, like a drink or 10 or have off field issues.
in the last couple of years alone we've released the likes of Holdsworth, Seymour, O'Carroll, Johnson, McKinnon, Jamie Ellis, Lynch, Obst...its like a revolving door!'"
Nearly all of those was bought by the old board and ex coaches......not heard anything about Watts been disruptive off the pitch where as Holdsworth was the main culprit last season and some of others asked to go.
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| Any news on yesterday's injurys to Watts and Green ? Heard green broke a bone but hopefully not
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Any news on yesterday's injurys to Watts and Green ? Heard green broke a bone but hopefully not'"
Waiting for scan results bud.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Waiting for scan results bud.
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| Quote ="Fevxr2i"Well you will be pleased to know if we meet again and we come to you, be it in the cup, SL or the middle 8
the drum wont be making an appearance as its too large to carry about
However if you come to us.......'"
That drum was bad but nothing compared to the doughnut who chanted by himself "you only sing when you're fishing" about 50 times.
I will lay my cards on the table,we will not finish in the 8.IMO
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| Quote ="dayvoz"That drum was bad but nothing compared to the doughnut who chanted by himself "you only sing when you're fishing" about 50 times.
I will lay my cards on the table,we will not finish in the 8.IMO'"
& chanting "get into em" pffftt!
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| Quote ="Fevxr2i"Well you will be pleased to know if we meet again and we come to you, be it in the cup, SL or the middle 8
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Tell the guy not to bother with a smaller drum either, they're banned at the KC (thank goodness)
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| Quote ="dayvoz"That drum was bad but nothing compared to the doughnut who chanted by himself "you only sing when you're fishing" about 50 times.
I will lay my cards on the table,we will not finish in the 8.IMO'"
it was just as annoying to most of our fans i can assure you, wants the drumsticksticking right up his jacksy lol
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| Quote ="gingdong"it was just as annoying to most of our fans i can assure you, wants the drumsticksticking right up his jacksy lol'"
It is always nice to hear supporters from teams that have "drummers" voice their opinions on them. I think they would be fine in moderation, but sadly once someone gets a drum in their hands they get it into their heads that it needs to be banged every couple of minutes.
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