We've been this dire for 3 years now yet season pass sales and shirt sales increase year on year, it will be the same next season too so nothing will change.

Aren't pass sales down?

You'd think so, there was a definite lack of updates on numbers from December onwards.

Right on cue and its only Tuesday...they've wheeled Fitzgibbon out in the press!

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That's okay then it's only the simple matter of taking more control, being more ruthless, coping with adversity....BLAH BLAH BLAH............





How many times are we going to see our players in the press telling us that everything is fine?

A big club like ours averaging mid-table finishes season on season is not okay and there is clearly something missing, something pretty substantial!

He's not telling us that everything is fine. What he's doing is trying to deflect the blame away from Agar and the BOD onto the players. I wonder if he really believes what he's saying.

All is clearly not well when the spin is being rumbled as easily as the tactics.

I dont think he will really care what he is saying so long as he gets paid each month and collects his bonuses. Half the RL players these days are just there to take the flak off the BOD and coach because the management know the fans hold the players in such high regard. Can't blame Fitzy because he's been paid to do a job on and off the field.

Even the best Coach in the World would struggle when players get paid 15 days late 3 times already this year and his 3 overseas signings have missed a big chunk of the season because of red tape.

Could sit here and list a lot more going on behind the scenes at Crusaders but I dont think it is of much interest to this topic.

Fact is, as Wolfie has pointed out, anybody who had anything to do with Crusaders last year will tell you Iestyn was running the show with Sharpy working on tackle tech and bery little else and Noble watching from the side lines.

There starting to make themselves look stupid.

Starting?

The only thing that has surprised me is that they have not published 4 more stories on the website to remove the derby score from the first page of news.

Do they think we are stupid ?....we played our best ruby over the Easter period and Longy was not even fecking playing





They can shove their season pass for next season...

Another one joins the club.

After a narrow, drab win against Quins that leaves most fans reaching for a Vodka with Prozac chaser, expect the "We've turned a corner" headline to appear

I'll ask Mrs B to save this in her index for next Tuesday.

Turn enough corners and you end up back where you started.

We did that in London. With quarter of an hour to go, I said to my friend - "They've got 15 minutes to save Agar's job".

So they did.

Suicidal for the first 65 minutes, relieved and ecstatic for the last few - I'm wondering if it was worth it. Almost wishing we could have taken the pain then - we'd have been well on the way under the new man by now.

that game was the first time I've ever felt pleased for Hull to be losing, as better times seemed to lie ahead. Then Hull went all Harlem Globetrotters on us!

Iv had it Kosh, my dad was right this season not to renew, it is the same old same old, and the sad thing is im getting past caring, as well as the coach doing one, half the team can go for me, Fitz, Whiting, Lauaki, Turner, Sharp, Dowes, Radford, all go, we are a mid table team, and even with a new coach at the helm, he'll only get another 20% out the team.
As you said mate, turn enough corners and you back where you started, well where back there again, the corner will be turned again, and they'll try convince us were on the right track after we beat the mighty Quins by 2pts, what a load of ball$!!!

Dont kid yourself, Agar is going nowhere. The board simply dont give a toss about the on field displays. The only question they will ask is; are we making a profit and will i get my dividend? If it's a yes, then Agar will stay. Sad but true!

Cheers that little quote has cheered me up




So if we lose on Sunday, do you recon then the board will start facing facts, or is he here till the end of the season and beyond?

But the crowds down and will be more so next season if we miss out on the 8, and hes still in charge next season, the board are all about business, even they can see that somethings got to give or there profits will take a massive tumble?

what dividends would these be?

Don't worry,ICECREAMMAN,will be around soon to let everyone know