We were back to back champions.



.When were you last champions.?

Hoy has to play FB when everyone is available, better than Walker in every department. Although given our other issues I'm not sure that's even an option because the halves were a mess too, and now Houghton might be out next week (not sure on the rules this year). I'd also suggest putting Okunbor on the wing because we are too lightweight in the back 3, but then what do you do in the second row? Absolute shambles. Hard to imagine a worse night, both in terms of the actual performance and what it means going forward.

Can’t argue with that and unless there’s a significant improvement over the next few games I think his position as Head Coach has to be under serious scrutiny.
Even taking into account to issues we faced before kick off and loss of Cator we looked miles off yet again.

Whats telling for me is that I don’t even feel that ed off or disappointed anymore as it’s become such a norm and expected.

Back to back Challenge cup champions in the last 10 years.

We even destroyed one of your favourite songs and made you become Erasure fans.

Thought Ashworth looked pretty handy. Martin also tried his heart out and expected him and Litten to get ran ragged defending together but they didn't do a bad job.
Herman looked okay other than his yellow card. Good hard carries from him but a bit loose with the ball occasionally.
Seen Okunbor getting some stick but looked at the stats and he was the top tackled in the game with 41. Made 13 from marker and missed 3. So defensively he worked really hard. Got wrong footed by Lewis but he's not the only player who that will happen to this year. 1 error and 1 penalty early doors from him. Needs to see more ball but I think there's something to work with on him.

:Agent smith and gene doing a great job.Your a pleasure to watch.

I'm over it already as I don't expect anything else now.

well he is certainly not a half back thats for sure.
Hoy is not a six in my opinion but maybe a better balance with him and Smith
Just dont see Balmforth getting a run whilst Smith is in charge

Thankful that Hiku's goal kicking was as shambolic as our discipline. How many 1st teamers we missing for Wire - 10 is it?
Walker
Tindall
Tuimavave
Sutcliffe
Trueman
Pele
Houghton
Fash
Sao
Cator

Nothing a Hull FC fan loves more than wanting rid of their coach.

First game in and it's already been brought up.

thats what happens when you have 2 hookers playing in the halves.

I don't know I've only been going 34 years.

Walker passed his HIA and came back on so we should be fine...

Indeed we could almost make a bang average team out of that lot!!

On way back. Here's my view on things. Pele deserved sending off. Sao no way. On the whole our pack did ok. Plus when Ashworth came on he was a handful. For me our main problem was the backs. Smith tried but didn't really do anything of note. Brown was invisible. The 3/4 apart from Martin imo where awful. You maybe didn't notice it on TV but there where all over the place. I hope Tuime and Sutcliffe are back soon. Brown needs to play hooker.Hoy looked lively when he came on so get him at 6. In reality where miles of. One last word I slag lane of regularly but he ran and tackled his socks of tonight.

There is certainly some frightening pace in that last eight

Fingers crossed...

Fair assessment.
Points are my biggest worry, I've watched 160 mins of Hull so far this year and nor for a single minute of it have I thought we look threatening with ball in hand.

Danny Houghton is the only positive with regards to effort,Uncle Tony is spot on when he said FC were 2nd best team in Hull and you have to give him credit for his honesty the game is up Mr Pearson looked toats ed!

Thought Brown was particularly disappointing tonight, Hoy and Smith seemed to work better as a pairing Houghton failed his head test so Balmforth has to come in next week. Without Cator or Fash I’d probably move Brown to 13. Will we see Gardiner and Staveley in the 17 with the likely suspensions to Pele & Sao.

Thought Ashworth, Martin & Sao showed up well other than that thought it was pretty poor. If Herman & Franklin can’t keep the discipline then we’re in even bigger trouble.

Well I was positive before the season started but have to say the doom and gloom posters on here were right.
Thought our pack would match them but they bossed us.
Hard to single out the backs as we had little go forward.
Houghton easily man of the match for us which all things considered is depressing.
Passive defence and lack of coordination is still there despite the change in personnel.
Thought kr were nothing special either.
Against 12 & 11 with lion share of possession they should have put 40 on us.

We're in for a long old season, looked absolutely clueless in attack and effort only gets you so far. And Trueman aside (who is injured often) where is the creative spark coming from?

Don't think anyone can take any positives from that. It was rank from start to finish.

Roll on 2025

As the saying goes, nothing is ever won in round one, but bloody hell, we are in some deep trouble if that is going to set the tone for our season.

Our discipline has been a shambles for years now, and here we are, with a whole turnover of players, and we still have the same results?

The Pele red is unforgivable. A great initial hit spoilt by a terrible swing, he’ll be looking at a hefty ban thanks to Fozzard and co.

Two games on the bounce we have been nilled, it has to be ringing alarm bells even at this early stage, with Truman not back till May something really needs to happen.

Defence, okay in parts, but still so sloppy in others, there’s talk about Smiths tackling techniques he’s tried to implement, is it just too much?

The worst thing is that Rovers weren’t that much better either, barely got out of 2nd gear and could’ve ended up with 30+

Deflated is the word I feel, which isn’t how I should feel at the start of having the game/club i love back. We’re going to be doing it tough on numbers at what will be an excited Warrington, not holding my breath for a result.

Absolutely awful, not a single positive and injuries and suspensions coming. We will be lucky to get 11th