I hardly think that Adam Pearson is going to respond by saying Administration is imminent is he! A totally pointless email and response.

You ran this past Barista for verification?

You can't even understand where you're going wrong yet again, as it is I probably won't get the half price FC live offer due to having to sign up for it in store which is a bit of a pish take tbh but irrespective of that you're still wrong on the amount and you still won't figure out why.
Pray tell how many millions more are you putting into the club next year...no really, don't bother, I don't care.

... you should have read the small print, but at least the club will benefit even more.

I have no idea how much Manu will be paid, and I suspect you don't either. Not sure if Pritchard is our Marquee player. I recall Pearson saying he was not in favour of the idea. I also seem to think Pritchard could well have been signed before the Marquee signing rule came in.

Just to reiterate my earlier post, since the signing of both Pritchard and Manu, the financial climate of the club has gone down. These players cannot be un-signed.

To those many on here who have stated they will not attend whilst Radfordand or Pearson are still at the helm, but continue to slate the club. Some of these have clearly stated that pepople who attend are apologists. FFS, if no body turned up then that is the end. The same ones who think they are doing something by not showing up.

A quick 15 minutes on this forum and you cannot fail to see who they are .

We only signed manu a few weeks ago and we're still pressing ahead with the planned U23's which will reportedly cost £150k p.a. so whilst the financial situation won't be particularly rosy, it's far from the disaster the accountants on the forum are implying

There are probably about 4 or 5 who have said it on here which pales into insignificance compared to the 100's or 1000's who have stopped attending games despite holding season passes. This is a fact, it's not a threat and I can only assume is down to the dire home form of last season

Has she got those yet?

She started with the doom mongering 2 weeks into pass sales, a full 3 months before the discount deadline, 2 months before seat reservations ended, a full 5 months before the season.

Maybe the cockle got ahead of herself

Is the £1.5mill a guess or did AP ring you and tell you?

does the £1.5mill include Manus £200k and the tax mans unconfirmed amount (Poss £200k)

The purchase of county road?

Hudds only own 10% of their ground (hardly controlling stake)
Wigan dont own their ground
Rovers dont own their ground
Salford dont own their ground
Wakey sold theirs years ago when it was thought to be sat on precious, mineable, minerals (still owned by 3rd party)

Nah Mellow birds made it up

wasnt the point of the merger of the U19's to get them the best coach in the game, and the new club has Webster at the helm

There will be some on here asking if he could do a job at 7 for us still....

Well that's a load of rubbish! Pearson was claiming Pritchard was the most expensive player in the league on radio not so long back. He's our marquee signing, make no mistake.



Maybe you could point out the dramatic change in financial circumstances since June then? Such to the extent it would wipe out the increase in revenue from Sky and the RFL golden handshake from the academy merger?

In isolation that last set of accounts make poor reading, but that's nothing new.


It think there are a number of factors when have contributed to the perceived financial concerns. Form being probably the main one. But could you imagine the outcry if we did not sign decent players? I suppose its speculate to accumulate. Pearson has committed to these costs, I think he is perhaps looking for some support / backing from the fans on this.

I will hold my hand up and say, I missed 5 home games last season despite being a season pass holder. 2 of these were due to work commitments, 3 were towards the end of the season when I fully admit, I simply couldn't be bothered to watch a nothing game.

It has not stopped me renewing my season pass for 2016 though.

Its those who do not attend due to a particular coach being at the helm which puzzles me.

Sam Tomkins is probably going to be the biggest earner in SL next season (I don't know this for fact, but on the basis that it was Wigan's idea for a marquee player solely to get ST back, its a reasonable shout).

Since June, corporates have distanced themselves, some season pass holders have voiced discontent, the SMC are playing hardball.....

Yet you didn't attend because you didn't want to watch a nothing game, isn't one of the main factors of them been "nothing games" the coach. If so, then you didn't attend due to the poor coaching that as put us in the "nothing game" scenario. Not puzzling really

No, a nothing game, is nothing to do with the coach at all.

The position of the team in the league is not solely down to Radford. The facts of the matter are, there are better teams with better players in the league. Wayne Bennett would not have turned our squad into world beaters. Certainly towards the end of the season when we had a significant amount of injuries, we were stretched to the max. Were the injuries the coaches fault?

The games against Hudds and Cats at the end of the Super 8's held nothing of interest to Hull FC. That's nothing to do with Radford or anyone else who may have been in charge if it were not Radford.

In a similar way, I would not feel the need to attend a pre season friendly game. There is nothing really at stake.

I didn't attend as there was nothing of interest in the game and I invest a significant amount of time and travel into each home game I attend.

We do not have a given right to be at the top end of the league, especially when there are better squads with less injuries. It would appear some have not been around the block with Hull FC enough times to realise this.

Good post, don't agree with much of it, but cant fault your reasoning's if that's what you truly believe

The point is that we have a marquee player. No, I don't expect him to be the most expensive, but it will be hefty! If we can't afford one, we shouldn't sign one! You think Pearson isn't savvy enough to know whether we can afford it or not?


Let's get one thing straight, the pressure the SMC is applying isn't financial. Allam's just trying to save himself money by strangling the life out of our club.
I fail to see how fan discontent and corporate 'distancing' can cost over £500k. Do you realise the amount of fans we'd have to lose to see that kind of reduction in revenue?
I can't understand how people who believe in Pearson can say how poor he is at forward planning! Because if all these things since June were unforeseen, that's what it indicates! Don't believe the hype.

My position is that I simply don't like the rhetoric Pearson is using. It's sensationalist and causes division at a time when we all need to pull in the same direction! (as evidenced by this very thread).

That's the beauty of these forums, each to their own opinion.

For the record, I have been a critic of Radfords coaching and I advocated he should have gone by Easter of 2015. Performances have been inconsistent to say the least. We were served up some dower stuff early in the season but then you had performances like the ones away at Warrington, the Magic weekend and home against Cas in the Cup which were great displays of open rugby.

Pearson has backed Radford to the hilt. Fair play to him, as i can see the disadvantage of changing your coach every season. There would be the constant echo of "I need to build my own team", which I always think is a poor excuse.

Well, Radford has has 2 full seasons to form a team of his making. He has sifted out the deadwood he was left with by MacRae etc, he has blooded many youth players who now have the foundations of experience in the top flight. 2016 is the time to deliver!

I want to attend games which have meaning and competitiveness. Something to get your heart pumping when you watch it. Not some end of season dead rubber.

Although I agree the coach is culpable, so are the player and the owner. To single out the coach would be grossly unfair in my opinion.

Bit of a double negative there, would you not agree? How else would Allam strangle the life out of the club if it were not financial.

Do you not agree that the closure of the ticket office on match days will not affect Hull FC financially?

Lets say season ticket sales drop to 6000 in total. That would represent a drop of around 2000. Based on a prudent price of £200 for a season ticket, there is £400k. It would not take many Corporate box / tables to not renew to get to your figure of £500k.

As has been pointed out, we have already lost around 4000 from our average gates of 2010. Id say any further significant loss of regular fan base would be a major problem for the club as a whole. I would not say losing 4000+ fans was being sensationalistic, more like being realistic.

Yet, as you point out, we still signed an expensive forward in Pritchard. Is this one last through of the dice by Pearson spending big on the playing squad in an attempt to attract fans and hopefully some success? I can see the guys concern when he puts his money at stake but the support dwindles.

The problem with Adam Pearson, is he's pouring funds into the wrong areas- IMO.

He still clearly feels signing a more higher calibre player,will gel a group of individuals into a team.

By his own admission,he stated "I've tried everything I can,to improve the club" - except for one thing - appoint a proven Head Coach with a decent coaching team.

The major issue,going forward is unless Pearson changes his attitude & policy, of not recognising the importance of the Coach and his assistants,things will not improve.

Also, the attitude, of hiring staff who dont 'get' Hull,
is basically ,in my opinion- is an poor excuse.

It's up to him to decide, if the applicant has the determination,desire to be successful - not his place of birth.

The way forward for this club -IMO, is sign an experienced Head Coach, not world class but proven at making a group of players into a cohesive team.

Cannot disagree with your view.

So, given Pearsons back of Radford, it would appear unlikely he will be sacked unless it goes badly wrong next season. Would you be in favour of another coach coming in to assist Radford (especially on the attacking side of things)? If so, who would be the likely candidates?