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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Well Standee will not be happy, he believes we should sue him,and sack him
However I believe he should be sacked, not sue, hung and quartered though
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I think he should be sacked too, just that circumstances may give him another chance.
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| Quote ="Standee"He's taken money under false pretences, it's time sport got less tolerant of idiots like him.
Anyway, we'll see what happens, if he doesn't get sacked then he'll get my support in the Black and White.'"
Honestly how on earth has he taken money under false pretences
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I think he should be sacked too, just that circumstances may give him another chance.'"
I disagree, I reckon he will be sacked he was on his final warning, and he could just carry on letting us down all season. The kid really is an idiot!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Honestly how on earth has he taken money under false pretences
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OK, imagine you pay a garage to get your car through an MOT, they say it has, someone else has a look and they didn't do the work they charged for.
Tansey has been employed as a professional RL player and to abide by the acceptable behaviour as set down by the club, he has not fulfilled that promise.
IF the club sack him then it can only be for serious breach of contract, and any business could seek recompense for such behaviour.
I sometimes wonder about what is acceptable to some people on here. (fortunately, the people in the stands seem a lot more realistic)
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| Quote ="Standee"OK, imagine you pay a garage to get your car through an MOT, they say it has, someone else has a look and they didn't do the work they charged for.
Tansey has been [uemployed [/uas a professional RL player and to abide by the acceptable behaviour as set down by the club, he has not fulfilled that promise.
IF the club sack him then it can only be for serious breach of contract, and any business could seek recompense for such behaviour.
I sometimes wonder about what is acceptable to some people on here. (fortunately, the people in the stands seem a lot more realistic)'"
The key word there is employed, he is covered by employment law..If he breaches the rules he will be dealt with under the conduct code, which he has/is and it could result in his dismissal. Also we are not privy to the in's and out's of this it is clearly an internal disciplinary matter, and so it should be.
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| If he doesn't go now, what happens the next time? Because there will be a next time. And this is my point, Agar knew there would be a next time and should have addressed the balance of the squad accordingly. Tanseys excuse is he's brainless, what's Agars?
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| Quote ="lummy"If he doesn't go now, what happens the next time? Because there will be a next time. And this is my point, Agar knew there would be a next time and should have addressed the balance of the squad accordingly. Tanseys excuse is he's brainless, what's Agars?'"
3 strikes?
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| 1st time can be a mistake 2nd time is careless 3rd time is just plain stupid, get rid on-one is bigger than the club
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| Quote ="Standee"OK, imagine you pay a garage to get your car through an MOT, they say it has, someone else has a look and they didn't do the work they charged for.
Tansey has been employed as a professional RL player and to abide by the acceptable behaviour as set down by the club, he has not fulfilled that promise.
IF the club sack him then it can only be for serious breach of contract, and any business could seek recompense for such behaviour.
I sometimes wonder about what is acceptable to some people on here. (fortunately, the people in the stands seem a lot more realistic)'"
Breaching disciplinary rules is not necessarily the same as breach of contract, otherwise every employee ever sacked could have been sued.
His contract will lay down the rules he is expected to obey and the procedures and penalties that will apply if he didn't. Under employment law this will be the only recourse the club can pursue.
Nobody has suggested that his behaviour is acceptable - least of all BB - so I'm not quite sure what you mean by that last point?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Breaching disciplinary rules is not necessarily the same as breach of contract, otherwise every employee ever sacked could have been sued.
His contract will lay down the rules he is expected to obey and the procedures and penalties that will apply if he didn't. Under employment law this will be the only recourse the club can pursue.
Nobody has suggested that his behaviour is acceptable - least of all BB - so I'm not quite sure what you mean by that last point?'"
wasn't directed at bb, and Im sure that bb is capable of defending themself if they thought it was.
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| i hope we sign phelps as replacement
or is it too late to try and sign greenshields for tasty transfer fee?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Breaching disciplinary rules is not necessarily the same as breach of contract, otherwise every employee ever sacked could have been sued.
His contract will lay down the rules he is expected to obey and the procedures and penalties that will apply if he didn't. Under employment law this will be the only recourse the club can pursue.
Nobody has suggested that his behaviour is acceptable - least of all BB - so I'm not quite sure what you mean by that last point?'"
and it could also be argued that ill-discipline aside he has been the closest thing we've had to a high performing rugby league player in our squad in the last 12 months.
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| Quote ="Standee"wasn't directed at bb, and Im sure that bb is capable of defending themself if they thought it was.'"
I wasn't particularly trying to defend anyone, I was honestly puzzled by the comment. Tansey has been universally condemned on this thread.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"and it could also be argued that ill-discipline aside he has been the closest thing we've had to a high performing rugby league player in our squad in the last 12 months.'"
This is why I believe he will not be sacked.
Just to play devils advocate, maybe the club has gone from one extreme to the other regarding club discipline.
Surely we've all seen the videos of Tickle dancing at the top of a fire escape pi$$ed up waving his shirt above his head.
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| Quote ="Standee"OK, imagine you pay a garage to get your car through an MOT, they say it has, someone else has a look and they didn't do the work they charged for.
Tansey has been employed as a professional RL player and to abide by the acceptable behaviour as set down by the club, he has not fulfilled that promise.
IF the club sack him then it can only be for serious breach of contract, and any business could seek recompense for such behaviour.
I sometimes wonder about what is acceptable to some people on here. (fortunately, the people in the stands seem a lot more realistic)'"
i am sure that the code of conduct agreement he signed states in much garbage along the lines of "mess about and get fired" wouldnt you say, so in fact he has played rugby what he was employed to do , just breached an internal cose of conduct ??
Sue him ?? I doubt it
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| Richard Whiting is a better player than Tansey anyway, even playing out of position. If i were Richard Agar i would sack Tansey, stick Whiting at full back and bide my time until a long term (and reliable) replacement can be found. In the mean time i would cover Whitings absence in the threequarters by alternating Lynn, J Briscoe and Cunningham. Maybe not ideal but would give all 3 valuable experience and bear fruit for you guys long term.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"This is why I believe he will not be sacked.
Just to play devils advocate, maybe the club has gone from one extreme to the other regarding club discipline.
Surely we've all seen the videos of Tickle dancing at the top of a fire escape pi$$ed up waving his shirt above his head.'"
There is a fine line between players enjoying a night out and impacting their ability to carry out their duties.
I honestly thin Tansey is no different in terms of how often he does it, he just isn't "cute" enough not to get caught out.
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| Quote ="Standee"There is a fine line between players enjoying a night out and impacting their ability to carry out their duties.
I honestly thin Tansey is no different in terms of how often he does it, he just isn't "cute" enough not to get caught out.'" As I said though, have they gone from one extreme to the other with club discipline?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"As I said though, have they gone from one extreme to the other with club discipline?'"
No idea, I'd hope not, but honestly don't know.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"As I said though, have they gone from one extreme to the other with club discipline?'"
tickle's party antics,tbf,were a while back now.seems to have quietened down now,thankfully!
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Richard Whiting is a better player than Tansey anyway, even playing out of position. If i were Richard Agar i would sack Tansey, stick Whiting at full back and bide my time until a long term (and reliable) replacement can be found. In the mean time i would cover Whitings absence in the threequarters by alternating Lynn, J Briscoe and Cunningham. Maybe not ideal but would give all 3 valuable experience and bear fruit for you guys long term.'"
Tansey and Whiting both offer different attributes to the team, we're just dissapointed that it looks like that it will be only Whiting doing so now!
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Richard Whiting is a better player than Tansey anyway, even playing out of position. If i were Richard Agar i would sack Tansey, stick Whiting at full back and bide my time until a long term (and reliable) replacement can be found. In the mean time i would cover Whitings absence in the threequarters by alternating Lynn, J Briscoe and Cunningham. Maybe not ideal but would give all 3 valuable experience and bear fruit for you guys long term.'"
Spot on, along with Turner.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Breaching disciplinary rules is not necessarily the same as breach of contract, otherwise every employee ever sacked could have been sued.
His contract will lay down the rules he is expected to obey and the procedures and penalties that will apply if he didn't. Under employment law this will be the only recourse the club can pursue.
Nobody has suggested that his behaviour is acceptable - least of all BB - so I'm not quite sure what you mean by that last point?'"
Does anyone know if the club contract with the player or through a ltd company owned by the player as footballers do
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| A one year loan for a young ozzie Hb would be good and they shouldn't even need a visa for 12 months (working holiday visa). Everyones a winner surely?
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| Quote ="Edenmain"A one year loan for a young ozzie Hb would be good and they shouldn't even need a visa for 12 months (working holiday visa). Everyones a winner surely?'"
Nope
[url=http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/workingintheuk/tier5/youthmobilityscheme/workingandconditions/Working holidays no longer permit work as a professional sportperson[/url
Youth mobility scheme replaced the working holiday visa in 2008ish.
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