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| Quote ="PAUL M"Yet he challenged for the top four all season and finished about Justin Morgan who people have down as a worldbeater.
I don't always understand this coaching debate.
Maguire was unproven, his plus point was he had worked under arguably the best coach around in Bellamy but he was a gamble.
Brown had a great squad at St George and constantly failed to deliver.
If we had sined either of those fans would not have been happy as they would not have appeared as a top class coach at the point of signing them.
The there are the likes of Matterson, Rea, Sharp and Potter.
It's not a magic wand and is Agar was not here I would love to know who people would want and why.'"
I did do a poll to see who the fc fans wanted but someone decided to lock it
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| Quote ="Tongan Mafia"I did do a poll to see who the fc fans wanted but someone decided to lock it
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the problem was mate, it wasn't "a" poll, on the same morning you started about 5 of the buggers.
And, as was said at the time, polls are a waste of time, effort and board space.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08" if there's something he's got it's a fatastic knowledge of rugby league and talent spotting!!'"
I've never quizzed him on RL but don't doubt he'll know something bearing in mind his background , family etc but where does this talent spotting credit come from? Have I missed some? There's the Briscoe boys , was Lyne one of his? Who else? And if anyone says Fitz , O'meley , Long etc then , please a blind man could "spot" them. I can't think of any other untried players that have come into the club under Agar and gone on to be a good standard regular SL player. Got to admit that I didn't follow his career before FC , did he discover lots of new talent then?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"And not long after the season started that Hodgson had already overtaken Houghton. He'll get one right sooner or later by the law of averages.
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Now, now Mrs G.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
Also you said 'Radford is a Robin' and 'Dowes is a Bull'. Apparently not!'"
Was more likely to happen than LMS,Fielden,Coley,Myler to Hull was or your 2/3 'definates' are
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Didn't you say the same last season?
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I said top 4
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| Quote ="Tongan Mafia"I did do a poll to see who the fc fans wanted but someone decided to lock it
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A poll tells you nothing, fans from any club can vote plus there are loads of options that you list never included. If you want a different coach tell me who you want and why?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Is you say so, we'll see when our recruitment is done. Either way you were wrong about Dowes and Radford
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Indeed i was.
Not as far out though as you were with Fielden et al
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| We need to make a final - if we don't then the coach needs to be replaced because he will definitely have had a fair crack of the whip by then.
If Long and Horne can start most of the games together (did they start 6 including league and play-off together? Not sure how many of those they finished together) that will help
We need a winger who plays more that 3 games as well - that will help
And a better-disciplined Tansey - that will help
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| The squad is not complete yet and projecting anything with a full squad has proved near impossible in recent years.
As it stands at the moment they would maybe make eight, they need a quality centre and half back cover as a matter of urgency. I think we need a look at the forwards as well, the balance is not right for me to many battering rams and not enough ball handlers or is it people to run with them !
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| Quote ="ChrisH"I've never quizzed him on RL but don't doubt he'll know something bearing in mind his background , family etc but where does this talent spotting credit come from? Have I missed some? There's the Briscoe boys , was Lyne one of his? Who else? And if anyone says Fitz , O'meley , Long etc then , please a blind man could "spot" them. I can't think of any other untried players that have come into the club under Agar and gone on to be a good standard regular SL player. Got to admit that I didn't follow his career before FC , did he discover lots of new talent then?'"
Sam Moa's one of his too, suggested to him by Manu I think. He's certainly worked out well though.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Sam Moa's one of his too, suggested to him by Manu I think. He's certainly worked out well though.'"
Isn't Danny Brough one of his from an earlier life?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Sam Moa's one of his too, suggested to him by Manu I think. He's certainly worked out well though.'"
Forgot about Sam but then again it's taken Agar some time to become convinced , longer than most fans at any rate.
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| Quote ="ChrisH"Forgot about Sam but then again it's taken Agar some time to become convinced , longer than most fans at any rate.'"
How so? It was Agar who signed him?
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| Quote ="downtheante"Isn't Danny Brough one of his from an earlier life?'"
You mean at York? Think it was Agar who signed him for them. Kear brought him to us though.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"How so? It was Agar who signed him?'" agar signed him, didnt really play him and even now doesn't know how to use him
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"agar signed him, didnt really play him and even now doesn't know how to use him'"
IIRC, he went straight into the side when he came over, even though he clearly wasn't fit. He then went into the 21's for a while to trim down before regaining a place in the 17. It was only at the start of this season where I think he was unjustly left out.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"agar signed him, didnt really play him and even now doesn't know how to use him'"
Maybe he never played him as he was not ready from a fitness perspective, the coaches would know better than fans on this.
It's about getting the right balance with him, he started off not getting enough minutes and then ended up getting too many. Injuries will have also dictated that a bit as will the fact that he was playing so well.
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| Assuming this thread is 'Expectations for Next Season' rather than 'who said what about who and when and were they right or wrong' then I would expect us to be again challenging for top 4.
An out an out half back, not someone who 'could also play hooker/centre/full back...' and who would reasonably be expected to stay injury free and provide cover for Horne and Long is IMO essential and is hopefully our first priority.
Many other clubs have more players leaving and coming but this does not necessarily equal strengthening their squads.
All in all it will be a quiet off season, hopefully the Board will freeze ticket prices and we will sell more or less the same number of passes as this year.
Time to go into hibernation and a Merry Xmas to you all.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"I said top 4
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Now now Scott no fibbing IIRC you predicted us to finish 9th?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Maybe he never played him as he was not ready from a fitness perspective, the coaches would know better than fans on this.
It's about getting the right balance with him, he started off not getting enough minutes and then ended up getting too many. Injuries will have also dictated that a bit as will the fact that he was playing so well.'"
His use of Moa for the first half of the season was an absolute joke. It really took the biscuit when Moa played in the away game at Leeds and was the best forward on the pitch only to be dropped the following week when Leeds came to the KC in the challenge cup.
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| I predicted 6th last year because to reach the next level we need a world class coach,nothing's changed,so 6th again next year.
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| Quote ="Carlotti"I predicted 6th last year because to reach the next level we need a world class coach,nothing's changed,so 6th again next year.'"
We've not moved forward but most others have. We'll be overtaken in the league next year.
Think our points difference reflected a truer picture of our on-pitch abilities, too - i.e. not able to score much. Feasibly the only difference next year whilst retaining the current squad could potentially be that Horne and Long get more game time. Give this year's injury record, though, how likely is that?
We've got the squad on paper (apart from a youthful experienced half) but we look like Warrington did before Smith replaced [itheir[/i young English coach.
So all in all I think we'll slip. 8th to 10th next year unless we appoint a "Director of Coaching" pdq. Not going to happen, though.
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