that's why all our player's are injured!!!!! berro,calders,manu,lauaki,long,tickle,fitz,etc.

Whoaaa!!!

So now we are getting some where, a player picks up knocks when they only give it 50% with half hearted hits, wonder if that is what is happening now...Interesting...players only half interested

No doubt you will say it is not the case for all the other injuries and Agar motivates them 100% as they are his team

I lool along that list of players and can tell you 110% there is no one there who gives less than 150%
to even say that Hame knows how to underperform is silly, he wants to kill everyone not in black and white every game ( motaphorically speaking)

like another poster just said, my opinion is not a bible its just my opinion same as Wolfies or Wilfs just opinions

Gareths situation was one I have never witnessed before in a player. his was a question of "who wore the trousers" not who are we playing

Respond to the post...you claimed Carvell picked up injuries because he only gave 50% and had no heart....yet very predictably you do not contribute this to any other players injury...

Said all along you talk b0llox you have once again proven this

I guess you must be right then, but you know it means also you dont have to read my B******S if it does not agree with you, but it is not meant to offend , just my opinion
you must be right

Oh right so if a players gets injury because they only give 50% it is down to other any other factor apart from the coach



A lot of fecking players with who wears the trousers issues in our team then

I am

Never said he had no heart, Gareth is a tough SOAB but was in a strange situation ...somewhat unique to rugby

being petty now

expro, i fail to see how anouther 32 year old back rower and on qouta would improve us, their is no ambition on signings, their is plenty of better younger players available in the positions we really need to strengthen, ie centre and half back and wing, why cant agar see this.

It's not possible to give more than 100%

true

i also agree, their could be some underlying problem with injuries, technique, could be a major factor, as you see in fcs play, we cant win the floor either in attack or defence, we constantly get bullied in that area, change techniqe and this could help, also line speed could be a factor, look at us when we defend, we allow team to come to us, meaning by the time they affect the tackle the opposition is at full speed, if you opperate in an unbrella style defence ang get of your line quickly, you cut their speed down, which usually means you win the tackle and the floor and your on your feet at square marker first, to get that though you need a high level of fitness, and i think we havnt got this, as every time we play we look shattered, something all the top clubs dont have a problem with, their is plenty of areas that need adressing, and agar isnt the man to do it.

the top teams have speed in abundance.we seem to have gone with the bradford side of the smith,elliott and noble era's-build.times change,we haven't.

And these "available players" are??

Hiding from Agar!?

from hull fullstop!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well the first 1 for me would be, due to the melbourne situation is finch, id be very tempted to offer him a deal, they cant keep all their stars, half back is the priority in my opinion, the other areas depend on who leaves, i would let both berrigan and fitz go to get finch and gasnier, with diskin in replace for berrigan. or at least enquire about them.

So you would let go one of our stand out star players in Fitz and a player who has been so pivitol in Berrigan ( if he is staying)
Also you presume that Diskin wants to leave a team that constantly wins trophies, and of course Finch is at a loose end isnt he with no options closer to home

Let Berro leave and sign Finch.

no didnt say that but they could enquire, and yes i would let fitz go, your telling me if finch was interested, you would not want him, younger, a class act at 6, and a position we despretly need to improve, and on diskin, if he doesnt get a contract offer, or one that he doesnt want then he would have no option, if we get in their and enquire then it would be up to him, does he want his future sorted, or take the chance of waiting for leads to ffer him a new deal.

yeah i would paul, obviously only if finch wants too.

the thing is berro won't be going anywhere.

I think we have to be a bit more ruthless and if they dont fit anymore then get rid. Including Horne, if there is good enough out there.......