WERE ALL DOOMED !!!!!!!

they're all probably to busy ing themselves laughing to be able to type.

Seriously what has this fella done to warrant a new 2 year deal ??

This stinks of the club being happy with mediocrity and 'on the cheap'. I for one am well ed off not because I am one of the Agar Haters but thought the club would progress to a much bigger name at the end of this season to take us to another level !

Does anyone have James Rule's email address?

I don't bother posting much on here anymore but I've just sent this to 'Tell Us':

Dear 'Tell Us',

This is the first time I have used this feature but feel I have to write now to register my disgust at the disgraceful decision taken to award Richard Agar a new contract. The irony of this isn't lost on me since by taking the decision to give Agar a new deal you have proved that the club clearly couldn't care less what the fans tell you, at least as far as on-pitch matters are concerned.

Since his appointment (which I disagreed with at the time), Mr Agar has overseen our transition from top4 to bottom 4 club. He has a win record of something like 43%. In this time we have played some of the most dire one-dimensional rugby I have seen in my eleven years of support and shown a total lack of a 'plan b' when this doesn't work. He has failed to improve the ability of a single player, admitted to not watching opposition teams in order to know how to counter them and come out with such pearls of wisdom as 'completion rates are overrated'.

During this period of abject failure, the club has consistently subjected its fans to spin mostly via a litany of excuses such as the injury problems over the past few seasons and the fact that 'this wasn't Agar's team'. While I accept to an extent the injuries excuse, the 'not his team' argument is frankly ludicrous. For proof of that see the dramatic difference that Maguire has already made to the Wigan team, despite the fact that thus far he has only signed a reserve half-back and the rest of the team were there last season under Noble.

All that said, I can accept that there was a case to be made for giving Agar the benefit of the doubt so far (primarily on the basis of his much-needed clear out of deadwood from the squad at the end of last season, along with the impressive signings he made to replace them). However, taking the decision to renew only eight games into the season is simply crazy. We have five wins from 8 games but have only really impressed in two of those games (Saints & Hudds), and this was negated to an extent by two extremely poor performances against bottom of the league outfits and the lesson in rugby we took from Wigan. Why has the club taken this decision now? I can't believe that there were clubs (or national teams) queing up to take him away from us!

As the club has already begun to do in the press release, no doubt you will be pedalling the line about Agar's renewal being good news regarding recruitment and retention of players since 'players want to know who their coach will be next year' and 'players are impressed with Agar's vision of the club' etc etc. Again, this is frankly nonsense, for example did Orford leave Manly for Bradford because he thought McNamara was a world class coach who would improve his game? Of course not, it was for the massive paycheck he's getting! The argument just doesn't wash, if I had signed a contract to work for a company headed up by Gerald Ratner, but before my contract began discovered that he had been replaced by Richard Branson I would be delighted, anyone with any sense would be!

The decision taken to renew Agar's contract is nothing short of cynical. With relegation no longer being an issue, our club turning a profit and season pass sales at a record high, there is simply no incentive at all to spend funds on a proven top-class coach. This is a travesty as everything else about the club is geared up for success, yet we refuse to invest in the most important element.

My phone this morning is awash with texts from Rovers fans expressing their delight at Agar's new deal, and for once I have to conceed they are right to laugh. I certainly would be if the roles were reversed. After our decline over the last two years, I was looking forward to the recruitment of a top class coach ahead of next season who would utilise the most up-to-date training methods and tactics to take us to the next level where we deserve to be. Sadly the club has let the fans down badly.

FFS Kosh! Stop been overly supportive of the club! Would you [iplease [/iget the balance exactly right... otherwise how on earth can you claim to be a true supporter?!

Oh, and you need to start attending every game... even if you physically can't.

Sort of sums it up for me too. I don't think Agar is "bad" but he struggles to motivate the team correctly imo. We should have battered Salford last week and looked like we were on a stroll in the park which actually got worse after half time when he had the chance to speak to the players.

Given the possibility of us missing out on 4 points this weekend, I think the club have made a rod for their own backs by even considering this at this stage. A larger chunk of the profits we make will have to go on paying Agar off if he doesn't improve. Bad timing (and possibly a bad decision) by the club, this.

I'm still quite shocked. It can't possibly be true, and yet, I know it is.

I suppose they're hoping that continuity will breed success.

The fans are very important to a club and their considerations would have been taken into account by any board in any sport as a rule although this would not make a decision concrete of course as there are a lot of factors to be considered,
There must be an over large percentage of Agar knockers on these forums or this board have gone against what the fans wanted.

It hasn't so far. How long can they keep hoping?

Perhaps when he's planning his 2025 recruitment with a view to finally lifting us out of mid/lower table obscurity the penny will drop.

As i put on monday,you guys are lucky to have an up and coming british coach who loves his club and has shown loyalty behond question.
Good luck Rich,the majority of hull fans are fully supportitive !!!

I don't know. I'm trying to think of examples, even from other sports.
Suppose the obvious one is Man United/Fergie, although that means Agar must win something this year.

All record 9,500 season ticket holders who all bought their tickets when Agar was in charge you mean ? Plus the 3000 or so walk ups that haven't seen a home defeat yet this season ?

I respect your opinion but don't lose sight of the facts.

If you keep on doing what you've always done, you'll keep on getting what you've always got.

Agreed. Even when the string of other SL and NRL clubs were knocking on his door, Agar stayed loyal to Hull. Good on him.

Why does this club want to waste another 2 years of being also rans? Wasn't the previous 2 seasons under Agar enough to prove that he doesn't have the ability to coach at a professional level.

"The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." — Albert Einstein

Could apply both ways though Kosh.

This is not only a crazy, non-sensical decision but also a very depressing one. Radford's 1yr extension last season was totally ridiculous and this decision is probably even worse.

What was wrong with waiting a month or two in order to see where we were with regard to results and performances ? As someone has already said, we have very much a season defining month ahead of us after which a more justified decision could have been made.

Yet again the club have jumped in with both feet and decided that the easy and cheap option is the best one.

I think the board are scared stiff of getting a coach with proven ability who will tell them to stuff off and mind their own business when it comes to team affairs, and not the 'don't whip me masser' we've got at the moment.All we get are assistants after assistant. We want a Leader. Hull Fc is just turning in a club where no one can do no wrong no matter how bad they are.

Listening to his pre match and post match interviews the lack of passion and any sort of desire is frightening, I hate to think how rivetting his team talks must be! And we wonder why the teams over the last few seasons seem to have had a lack of motivation.

Which may not be a cheap option if we choose/need to get rid in the next few weeks/months.

If that's the case, serves them right.

When i woke up this morning i said to the wife i had a terrible nightmare last night that the club had signed Agar on another two year deal. However upon checking my inbox i realised that the night before was a horrible reality. Our club is the only club who can create an april fools joke like this but forget to add "Haha April Fools" at the end of it.
I have been on the fence regarding Agar for a while now and to be frankly honest he has done nothing for me to get off the fence and in his corner and i suspect the majority of the fans feel exactly the same way. So for the club to extend his contract for a further 2 years is nothing short of a disaster PR wise.

The player retention argument is a load of hogwash, as has been said by many, players come for the money first and foremost.

If we win tomorrow will we all instantly think it is a good decision to get him signed up before someone poaches him?? No i don't think so i for one wont suddenly become Agars no 1 fan if he manages a rare win over them. Surely the board would have been wiser holding off till the next 4 very important games are out of the way at the very least.