2 early penalties

Is that in hope

No, just more likely than a try

Better get Norris McWhirter on the blower for this one. Records will be tumbling all over the place.

Youngest ever Super League starting 13?
Most missed tackles in a game?
Least meters made in a game?
Lowest average meter gain in a game (Fash might already have this one)?
Least play the balls in the opposition half in a game?

The list could be endless.

There might be a few of us wishing we were already bottom and hadn't beat them last month by the end of this one!

Ligi and Balmforth both one game, Kaide Ellis one game for them.

Sao and Balmforth banned 1 game each.
Has Sao got a room rented at the Disciplinary, ? He's just come back from a ban.

Anyone got the stats for how many games Sao has been banned for this year? Yellows and Reds?

3 Yellows and 2 Reds i believe, not good enough.

As a club its 17 yellows and 4 reds, absolutely staggering numbers

He's an absolute tool !

no, tools are useful

Awful, and Sao has a lot of them. But don’t forget, we copped many of the early ones to set a false precedent for the season, including Nu B’s accidental head clash red amongst others.

On reflection, only Nu Brown’s card was unfair (as backed up in the RFL Disciplinary). All the others have been stupid, pointless actions by our players and served no benefit in the game and contributed to heavy defeats most of the time.

Think we should be a £1k fine for every yellow card (£3k red) and Monday when suspended. Can go towards free coach travel/tickets for our fans to away games.

I recall us having some pretty harsh ones in the early days of the season, but I’ve removed most of the memories of that period from my brain.

I understand his frustration. Because when he's putting his body on the line only for his creative players to let him down every single time they get into the attacking zone, then he's gonna get frustrated and give away penalties. That's how it is when you're at the bottom.

I get the frustration bit from Sao, I really do however; there’s some absolutely needless yellows in there. Take the one at Catalan, seconds before halftime for example, just no need.

Expecting Will Hutchinson to be in the squad for Sunday.

Think he was in the squad for Leigh, hoping he gets into the 17, play a few minutes.

Hopefully Houghton and Ashworth are back and help some damage limitation.

Like his pointless offload the other day to a London player following his charge down, when he didn’t pass to Charles or just go to ground and return possession. That was Sao’s fault, no one else’s. Moments later he gave a penalty away and now he’s suspended (again!).

Yeah, would agree with this.
To give a little benefit of the doubt to Sao, there have been times this year where I've felt he has made mistakes due to trying too hard, in having to carry the pack almost by himself (especially if Herman isn't there). These mistakes then lead to frustration which in turn lead to more brain explosions and more errors. He then starts flying around trying to make up for the mistake he's just committed only for the cycle to start again!!

Saturday was a case in point. London's first try came off the back of a penalty given away by Sao which in turn was the result of his frustration at his stupid off-load a few seconds earlier. The worst part, from our perspective, is that we keep seeing this chain of events being acted out on numerous occasions by various players through each game throughout the whole of 2024.

Indiscipline and lack of game management, just two of the many facets which are so wrong with the club and which are contributing to the worst season any of us have had to witness/endure.

There's no benefit of the doubt or excuse for his behaviour.
He's not a kid or an amateur but an experienced international senior player who should know better and be better versed in game management.

sao's actions just mirror the general malaise at the club

Tend to agree as its just more examples of the shortcut mentality that has become ingrained throughout the club and got us to where we now sit. Instead of rolling up our sleeves and getting in to the game from the whistle, we try stuff that never comes off early doors because its easier than putting in the hard work to get a proper foothold in a game and get some domination over the opposition first.

I am away for the weekend, so I am going to enjoy myself and simply pretend Sunday's game is not happening!

I don't think I have ever been so apathetic about our club than I am right now. Judging by the lack of discussion around this thread, I guess I am not alone in feeling this?

It's not just the fact that once more we find ourselves playing out the last few games of another dead-end season with everyone waiting for the year to end, so that we can put it away and never have to think about it ever again. Our problems are many and deep-rooted, as touched upon is various other threads on here.

I sense an overwhelming weariness surrounding everyone connected with the club, including the long-suffering fanbase. I get the feeling that every Hull Fc person, whoever they are, just wants this over and done with as quickly as possible? The end of 2024 can't come soon enough for virtually everyone!!

New physio, 50% off gilets.

Positivity back, fancy a comfy Hull win.