Agree, IF Walker asked for a release than why would the club even play him in the reserves.
It wouldn’t benefit the club, they may as well play one of the kids at full back in the reserves.

Whitehead if a top, top signing, disappointed but not surprised.

Is Cartwright under estimating the standard of SL or are we struggling to sign good players from the NRL, I've said all along I don't the signing of the likes of Holmes and Chamberalin, as long as we get top class imports (SL top class), but signing the likes of Rimbu and Stewert (I know he isn't coming now), are huge gambles, neither have played an NRL, which puts them below the likes of Pele and Ockunbor, on paper anyway (I know that we don't play on paper, but the point still stands).

The next two imports are key, we should be aiming for the likes of Sailor and Niu, which should eb possible, particularly with the connections and reputation that Cartwright has.

The HDM doesn't help, as they have built up hopes, just after the signing of Asiata, they ran an article that we were going to sign two big named players, like all the HDM stories this will have come from the club, probably Myler. I'm not convinced this will happen think we need a good couple of overseas players, ones that will excite the fans and a good UK signing, paying a fee, or looking at the likes of Bateman, Murphy etc

Rumour is that Whitehead has signed for Catalans, but Elliot's Instagram says "plenty of rumours flying around today" which may mean it isn't true, or not 100% complete

Do Catalan actually need him though? Their back row is one of their strengths with Sims, Seguier and Garcia...if we lose out to them, should we be going all out to tempt Bateman over to us?

I think Bateman is on the way down so for marquee money I wouldn't bother, only 30 but he's played a lot of games at a very high level. Also yet another RL player who gets homesick when it suits moving clubs like our new centre Mr Hardaker.

I'm fearing the worst today. I think we might be on the end of a wire backlash from their post Wembley blues last week. I know we won last week and are slowly improving but leeds were god awful. Fingers crossed the win will have changed our mentality. A good start Imperative today

It will be ok as we are showing progress under Grix….he has won just the same as Smith did but stopped the batterings…he has benefited from loan signings and a couple of permanent signings but that’s enough for some on here.He should have gone with Smith and I hope he goes at end of season.

No Cartwright.

Missing him and Chan going to make a huge difference to our side. Gardner will get 5-10 minutes at the end of the game and the rest of our pack will have to play more minutes because of it.

Sadly, we’re still in the “as long as we put in a performance” phase. We’ll likely lose but if we can make it a game, most fans will see that at progression.

So no Chan and we have a ready replacement in Cartwright and then moves Sao,who according to reports had a good game at prop,to 13…..surely Cartwright could have done a 30min spell but hey ho,I understand that call but why Move Sao???

Cartwright is obviously struggling with jetlag and had 1 session here. No point forcing him to the 17 when he's not ready.

13 and prop are basically the same with how we play. Not like we're asking Sao to play like Sculthorpe. Wouldnt matter if we named Fash/Herman/Sao at 13, no one would notice a difference

I’m old fashioned,I like a ball playing 13 but they are a thing of the past now.I know what you mean but when he plays there,he thinks he is sculpt…what’s up with Chan?

Disappointing that Cartwright hasn’t made the 17 but if he’s struggling with jet lag and following last weeks team performance then understandable.
When was the last time we had almost the same 17 the following week.

Doesn’t say he is struggling or anything on Hull live.Just thought with Chan out it would be ideal for him.

Grix said in an interview mid week that he was struggling with jet leg so assume that’s the reason combined with the way they played last week.
Positive that Gardiner is rewarded due to his performance in reserves. So let’s see if he takes the opportunity

Jet lag? thats Rollocks
If you have done a long haul flight the best recovery is to exercise when you get back
He should be playing at least 40 minutes even if he starts off the bench
Could only happen at Hull FC

Gardiner is a waste of space.Never make a S/L player

Because grix has too much Tinkering Tony in his DNA

Wire score in 5 mins. Normal service resumed lol.

I don’t normally agree with you but,yip,should have gone with Smith…Championship coach level and that’s it

But but they trained well during week,got the win and are looking to kick on,performances have improved blah blah blah

We have better shape in attack in recent weeks, but just lack the skill to actually move the ball accurately and quickly. Often picking the wrong pass going for a short crash ball rather than going out the back.
Barging over from close range looks to be our only option so far, but we have still done some really good stuff so far, but inability to convert position into points is disappointing.

Get Balmforth on. Smith's distribution is hindering us massively.

Sutcliffe really a wings dream
F-cking useless