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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"I'll try to put the two best thirteens lined up against each other from those days. Yeaman could make both teams but I'll put him in just one side.
05/06
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Blacklock
Whiting
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Raynor
Cooke
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Dowes
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Carvell
Mcmenemy
Kearny
Radford
Vs
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Kelly
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Minichello
Ellis'"
You've re opened the Briscoe/Tony debate with that 05/06 team
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| Quote ="mwindass"You've re opened the Briscoe/Tony debate with that 05/06 team'" Tony didn't know his best position but Briscoe could have some good games at Full back. I'd go with Briscoe, but Tony did have a few big moments in our colours.
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| Best & Barnett we're a joy to watch.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Best & Barnett we're a joy to watch.'" Like Ratu, those players that seemed to come and go quickly.
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| Richard Swain vs Gareth Ellis. It's tough to call which one of those skippers would have got their team home to victory against each other. Two of our very best.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Richard Swain vs Gareth Ellis. It's tough to call which one of those skippers would have got their team home to victory against each other. Two of our very best.'"
Close call, very close call here. Think I would have Ellis shading it. I've never seen an Fc player whose mere presence on the pitch seemed to lift everyone around him. Truly believe that, without him, we would still be forlornly waiting for that Wembley win.
The difference between how he influenced our team and the complete lack of leadership last Sunday is staggering.
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| Quote ="BP1"Close call, very close call here. Think I would have Ellis shading it. I've never seen an Fc player whose mere presence on the pitch seemed to lift everyone around him. Truly believe that, without him, we would still be forlornly waiting for that Wembley win.
The difference between how he influenced our team and the complete lack of leadership last Sunday is staggering.'" I think the 16 final there was no stopping us, that team was on such a roll and just didn't know when they were beat. Ellis was fantastic in that 17 final against Wigan though Ellis was hunting everything that was moving. But then you've got Swain's charge down on Sinfield's drop goal for the draw. That should be mentioned in the same as Houghto's tackle 52.
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| Quote ="BP1"Wembley '83 is a nightmare without end for me. I have never come to terms with the defeat even 41 years on! To this day I still cannot work out how such a fantastic team could freeze so badly when it mattered the most.
As a measure to how deep the scars still remain from that day; when I was sat at Wembley in 2015 watching Leeds hammer a very sorry rovers side, all I could think about was how we should have done exactly the same to Featherstone all those years ago!
Even the victories in 16/17 haven't fully eased the pain and shock of '83. Time, for me, has not been a great healer where this match is concerned. The 82/83 side is unquestionably the best Fc team I have watched, but sadly they fell at the very final hurdle. But all things considered that team tops both the 2004-06 and 2016/17 sides.'" Never watched that game, but I'm sure I'll find it online. It's one I want to watch to see why we lost it. I know we were champions that year.
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| Quote ="BP1"Wembley '83 is a nightmare without end for me. I have never come to terms with the defeat even 41 years on! To this day I still cannot work out how such a fantastic team could freeze so badly when it mattered the most.
As a measure to how deep the scars still remain from that day; when I was sat at Wembley in 2015 watching Leeds hammer a very sorry rovers side, all I could think about was how we should have done exactly the same to Featherstone all those years ago!
Even the victories in 16/17 haven't fully eased the pain and shock of '83. Time, for me, has not been a great healer where this match is concerned. The 82/83 side is unquestionably the best Fc team I have watched, but sadly they fell at the very final hurdle. But all things considered that team tops both the 2004-06 and 2016/17 sides.'"
There was rumors the team were on the p1iss the night before the game and didn't take Fev to seriously . Loosing Harkin didn't help either .
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Never watched that game, but I'm sure I'll find it online. It's one I want to watch to see why we lost it. I know we were champions that year.'"
You'll find it on the horror channel.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Never watched that game, but I'm sure I'll find it online. It's one I want to watch to see why we lost it. I know we were champions that year.'"
You'll find it on the horror channel.
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| Wembley 83 was terrible. I was once told by a former player who played that day that we thought we were going to walk it plus half the team had been out on the pizz the night before
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Like Ratu, those players that seemed to come and go quickly.'"
Wish Ratu would have stayed on. Considering he switched over to league late he got to grips with the game quickly and was unstoppable at times.
Possible the fastest winger we have had?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Wembley 83 was terrible. I was once told by a former player who played that day that we thought we were going to walk it plus half the team had been out on the pizz the night before'"
That was the rumour at the time.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Wish Ratu would have stayed on. Considering he switched over to league late he got to grips with the game quickly and was unstoppable at times.
Possible the fastest winger we have had?'"
I'd liked to have seen Ratu v Best in a race . Ratu was just a train , Once he got going , he wasnt going to be caught .
Best just cruised along , Never looked like he was going that quick .
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| Quote ="B0NES"There was rumors the team were on the p1iss the night before the game and didn't take Fev to seriously . Loosing Harkin didn't help either .'"
Kevin Harkin was the unsung hero of that team, the glue that held everything together.
Losing him (about fifteen minutes in I think?) seemed to disrupt the whole team, David Topliss, initially, went to scrum-half and we subsequently lost all shape and cohesion.
But we were still only 5-0 down at the break. Bunting then moved Mick Crane to SH with Topliss back at 6. We recovered and were 12-5 up on the hour mark with everyone expecting us to run away with it in the last twenty. Only for us to completely lose our way again in unfathomable circumstances.
I remember Steve Quinn kicking the penalty to put Featherstone in front, looking at my watch (there being no game clock in those days of course!!) and realising there was about two minutes left to go. Can't remember anything about the closing seconds, only walking out of Wembley in numb disbelief at what I/we had witnessed.
It was in the days following that I first heard the rumours about the players being on the lash the night before, which would explain things a bit, even given the fact there was a drinking culture throughout the game then (play hard, drink hard was a general motto!).
My Saturday ended with me getting into a blazing row with a rovers fan in our party as I completely lost my cool, so brassed off was I. My mates still remind me about it from time to time as I am generally fairly mild-mannered!! Like I said above, I've still to fully get over the whole nightmare, even to this very day! I'm not sure what future Cup win would ever make up for it. Think you had to be there to fully realise how dumfounded we all were that afternoon.
It will always be the one that inexplicably slipped through our fingers on the point of triumph.
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| I think I am kind of leaning towards to 05/06 era because I think they had a bit more flair to it than the 16/17 side and that proved to be too much for a lot of teams around that time. But flair doesn't always win you matches and the 16/17 side felt a bit more in control of themselves and their destiny. They knew how to keep themselves in games and grind down an opposition before pulling the trigger, seemingly at the right moment (2016 final being a perfect example of this).
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Wish Ratu would have stayed on. Considering he switched over to league late he got to grips with the game quickly and was unstoppable at times.
Possible the fastest winger we have had?'"
think you could be right but apparently Kevin James was deemed to be one of our fastest wings.
Short career unfortunately
Loved Ratu.Just like Albo provided excitement when they had the ball
Even after a serious Knee injury at Bristol according to their coach Ratu is still the fastest player on their books and they have some real flyers in their squad
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| Unfortunately since he left Hull ratu been plagued by injuries. Hardly played.
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| It would be an interesting clash of styles. The 05/06 team had a smaller, more mobile pack with a lot of flair and played an expansive game. The 16/17 team was much bigger and used that to full advantage. They overpowered teams who couldn't handle the physicality.
I actually think our best team of the summer era was 2004. There were some incredible players in that squad. But injuries took their toll and Wakefield's performance in the playoffs was arguably their best ever in SL. They played lights out that night.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"It would be an interesting clash of styles. The 05/06 team had a smaller, more mobile pack with a lot of flair and played an expansive game. The 16/17 team was much bigger and used that to full advantage. They overpowered teams who couldn't handle the physicality.
I actually think our best team of the summer era was 2004. There were some incredible players in that squad. But injuries took their toll and Wakefield's performance in the playoffs was arguably their best ever in SL. They played lights out that night.'"
Tough to make a side out of the 2005/2006 winning sides, this is mine based on their form at the time of those cup wins
Shaul (16)
Talanoa (16)
Yeaman (both)
Fonua (16)
Raynor (05)
Horne (05)
Sneyd (16)
Watts (16)
Swain (05)
Taylor (16)
Ellis (16)
Mini (16)
Cooke (05)
Houghton (16)
King (05)
Carvell (05)
Mcmenemy (05)
9/7 if favour of 16.
Some close calls though
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| Does anyone remember a youtube video that someone did of our CC win in Cardiff? think it was to the back drop of "You raise me up"
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| Quote ="CarlB"Does anyone remember a youtube video that someone did of our CC win in Cardiff? think it was to the back drop of "You raise me up"'"
Yes, had that bloke blubbering when everyone was singing abide with me
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Yes, had that bloke blubbering when everyone was singing abide with me'"
A bit crass that Jake. Abide with me is a very emotional hymn, played at many funerals, when it’s played before the final many fans including myself tear up. My Mum died in 2004 and I cried that day because she missed that game.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"A bit crass that Jake. Abide with me is a very emotional hymn, played at many funerals, when it’s played before the final many fans including myself tear up. My Mum died in 2004 and I cried that day because she missed that game.'"
Does me in every time I hear it
Seem to remember the HDM running a story on the guy from the 2005 final. I think he lost his father that year and it brought back a flood of emotion
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