In any kind of weather eh

As someone has already pointed out we won the last derby, and quite often the underdog wins the derby its just how it is.

Truth be told I wouldnt say KR are a bad side at all but alot of questions will be asked of them this season. New spine practically, new captain and question marks over there goal kicking options. Nobody in there team sticks out for me as having a great kicking game and be interesting to see if Lewis can organise the side.

Id say with this in mind its hard to say they are a better team by alot and wouldnt be surprised if they nose dived this season. Abdul being shipped out shows a lack of inexperience by Peters for me. Its a gamble I could see blow up in his face.

I looked at their squad numbers when released and their first 17 is decent but after that their squad is pretty garbage. Outside of the 17 they only really have Tanginoa and Burgess who are decent recognised names. Bit similar to us really, but our squad depth looks ever so slightly stronger and a few of our younger players already have a couple of games in their tank.
I can see Rovers struggling if they pick any injuries up, especially in the halves.

Ticket sales dont look too bad actually for a month away and the January pay day weekend yet to hit.

From the website looks a couple of hundred left in East Stand, 1000 left in south and about 1500 left in west lower. Rovers reported only a 1000 tickets left too.

Could be on for 20k if the sales stay the same.

I think that’s one thing that helps us is that we have signed 3 quota players who are all used to the league and 2 out of the 3 haven’t even had to move house, definitely helps with integration a bit more

2 signed from the team that got relegated too. Easy to manipulate any signing into a positive or negative, although haven't heard the don't have to move house one before. I suppose it worked for Albert Kelly.

Arguably two of Wakeys better players though Dave, with the added bonus that they aren't moving from one side of the world too the other aswell. Your right though, as easy as it is to put positive spin on a signing it's just as easy to put a negative too, to you FC fans Pele could be that line breaking prop you need, to us Rovers fans he's probably gonna be another Vete, its all in the spin.

Whitbread will be a terrific signing for Rovers half of Super League were chasing him. Tanginoa is a very good player too. Don't be surprised if some of your players find him difficult to tackle.

I agree Rovers do seem to have a few former Wakefield & Salford players .....King, Batchelor, Burgess, Evalds etc plus the afore mentioned Tanginoa & Whitbread.

I think they are all excellent players you see them as players from rubbish teams I suppose we would wouldn't we.

If they don't work out for Rovers we'll just start again, As Paul Lakin said recently "We’re a club that’s growing, we’ve grown year-on-year for the last three years and we’ll continue to grow. We’ll spend off the pitch, we’ve got a board of very strong and wealthy individuals'.

Rovers are building something to last.

Rovers didn't sign fifita or lino



Infact I think tangonia is pretty average for a overseas player

Ashurst is better than him imo

Let's not kid ourselves that just because Rovers have signed players from Wakefield, Castleford and Salford respectively that they are now poor players or were bad players in a relegated side.
Tanginoa when fit is still a good player. Whitbread was coveted by a few SL clubs, I was led to believe by us too.
Burgess and Evalds are still good players, capable of doing a job.

Just because they sign for Rovers doesn't make them poor signings.
Some people need to take their black and white blinkers off and comment with impartiality instead.

Where's the fun in that though?

We slag each other off and chat sh#t but it's just banter at the end of the day isn't it?

I said two of there better players didn't I?

As for Ashurst, he's been a solid SL player but that's it, I'm sure if FC signed him you wouldn't be happy though, well maybe you would be, but that says a lot about you and your knowledge

I'm sick of hearing about how Hull KR are contenders and we are cannon fodder.

Bring em' on.

Let's have em'

We know where we are and we know that we can still do that muck.

Can't say, they are brilliant, just had there best ever season, finished 4th and lost the cup final, they really should have won.

A bit like our 2013 season, and like thatcseason, no one will remember it in a few years, not for positive reasons anyway, more for missed opportunities.

History repeats itself, building something to last? Just like the early 80’s? That group of people sent your club into rapid decline and RFL wilderness for 30 years. Be careful what you wish for and be even more careful what you brag about. It’s a long way down from the top of this particular tree and a lot of branches to hit as you fall, which happens to all clubs sometime or other.

We've heard it all before haven't we. When they were first promoted they were going to survive, then compete then win trophies. Still waiting on the latter. We won the Cup eight years after being promoted and reached the Grand Final the following season. Rovers first reached Super League seventeen years ago.

They have a decent squad but are unlikely to get a better chance of winning a trophy than last year in the Cup - Batley at home, Salford at home in the QF, Wigan in the pouring rain and then Leigh in the final.

It's easier to win the cup these days due to how late super league teams enter it ( which is ridiculous btw )

Salford wigan and leigh is a tough run no doubt

Hopefully we'll get a easier cup run than that and have a shot at a cup run

He's better than what we've got

He's very under rated

I thought our 2013 squad was average really and we punched by getting to the final

Still think gentle was a good coach and think we'd have done good things with him

Although obviously radders delivered amazing things aswell

Peter Sharp and gentle were both sacked to early imo and sharp esp brilliant coaches

Looking back Sharp's sacking was madness and even at the time seemed premature. Everyone you speak to rated him as a coach. The Cooke fiasco tore the team and club apart leaving Sharp to deal with the fall out. Hetherington then appointed her adopted son Agar which set us back years.

Gentle was sacked after the Huddersfield play-off humiliation after the players downed tools and refused to play for him. Like you say Gentle was a good coach but something had to give and it's easier to replace the coach then most of the team.

The reverse has happened with Smith so we need to be patient and give him time to sort the mess out and build for the future.

He is playing in the championship, if he was good enough for SL, he be playing there.

Didn't you recently critise Bowden for being in the championship, so not good enough for SL, is this different from Ashurst.

His arguments fall apart like a one legged man in an AR se kicking compitition

Ashurst is a good player he’s the type that most teams need but wouldn’t ever get near dream team recognition like Tanganoa has done, but they’re both very different types of players and I’d say Ashurst is in the Dean Hadley mould of very solid resilient players that all coaches love, wether Ashurst is better then Hadley that would be up for discussion, Batchelor is the same type of player but better then both of them so rovers didn’t need a Ashurst type we needed a explosive hard line hitter that’s tough to handle which if Tanganoa can stay fit will be for us and hopefully regain that dream team form

So have a few other clubs and have the clout and prestige to outbid you for players.

The only thing Talentboy got right is that Sharp was sacked too soon.