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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Potential for a massive turnover of players year after next. Loads of players OOC.
Wonder if the club are keeping their financial options open?'"
Seems a deliberate move from Pearson to have so many deals run out in 2023 and I can understand why, its the last year of a reduced SKY deal and who knows what the future may bring?
another reduction in SKY deal and a mooted 2 leagues of 10 format may mean less games so a smaller squad needed...and we'd be on the verge of relegation to SL2 and off to Batley next year if it was happening this season!
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| TBH Lovodua has only shined because the rest have being very poor. Often thought hes not a very smart player and wouldnt have lost any sleep had he not stayed.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"We really need a fresh start next season so Lovodua to start at 9 with Dwyer off the bench.'"
so we pay Houghton to be a a water boy.
You can see it now Houghton destined to be given a job for the boys as he is a Hull boy
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Agree.
If Houghton had another year in his favour than there's nothing the club can do about it.
Dwyer offers something we have lacked for years at dummy half so I'm ok with that plus it's a 1 year deal.
Balmforth should be ready to play next season after having a full pre-season to sort his conditioning out.
Lovodua will be a utility player because we will have the usual nightmare with injuries.'"
Absolute joke Houghton can basically sign his deal himself
Sort of sums up the club last 3 or 4 years giving players deals based on 2016
Least dwyer will prove how limited Houghton is and that will be the end for Houghton
Will be a legend for tackle 52 but others no attack
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Potential for a massive turnover of players year after next. Loads of players OOC.
Wonder if the club are keeping their financial options open?'"
Yes i was looking at this
Seriously think Pearson is writing off next season thats why he is so quiet on the current situation.
Unless we can add a really powerful second row and possibly another front row to replace Taylor who is becoming an embarrassment this team will struggle next season.
I have no faith in this coach and i dont believe Pearson does either,but he has made the decision to run with him for economy reasons as he knows next seasons passholders and gates will be hugely down on numbers and if as i expect licensing comes in for 2024 then relegation will not be a threat
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| Quote ="bonaire"Yes i was looking at this
Seriously think Pearson is writing off next season thats why he is so quiet on the current situation.
Unless we can add a really powerful second row and possibly another front row to replace Taylor who is becoming an embarrassment this team will struggle next season.
I have no faith in this coach and i dont believe Pearson does either,but he has made the decision to run with him for economy reasons as he knows next seasons passholders and gates will be hugely down on numbers and if as i expect licensing comes in for 2024 then relegation will not be a threat'"
I dont agree, Pearson isnt daft enough to expect the club to serve up another year of dross and still have people wanting to buy passes for 2024. He will know deep down that we wont have the squad to challenge for the top spots next year, but he will be expecting a return to the top6.
I also think he has faith in Hodgson, even though I pesonally don't. I agree need more fire power in the forwards of we face another mixed year.
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| Not sold on Dwyer signing but give him the benefit of at least having something about him in wanting to spark things off when he comes on.
The extension of Houghton for another year is just a crazy situation to be in if it was in Houghtons hands to trigger the deal. Talk about no control on retention by the club. For me Houghton as good a servant he was should have gone end of this season. It’s disappointing he’s decided to go round again when he offers very little now. In a sport with s small cap having Dwyer, Lovodua, Balmforth and Houghton is a total waste and yet more imbalance in the squad when we have very weak/lightweight looking SR options for next season.
Really don’t see much changing for next season when the likes of Houghton, Taylor, Shaul & Gale should be moved on.
Letting a player who has been pretty poor for the last couple of seasons snd openly admitted he’d lost the love for the game to be able to reward himself with an extension shows why the club under AP and JC is in a mess
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| Quote ="UllFC"I dont agree, Pearson isnt daft enough to expect the club to serve up another year of dross and still have people wanting to buy passes for 2024. He will know deep down that we wont have the squad to challenge for the top spots next year, but he will be expecting a return to the top6.
I also think he has faith in Hodgson, even though I pesonally don't. I agree need more fire power in the forwards of we face another mixed year.'"
Well look at it this way.Unless there is an exciting signing or two coming in which i doubt then pass sales and gate receipts will be well down
in fact i will say HKR will have more passholders than we will have for 2023.
Then you look at all the players off contract for 2024 and the ability to bring in some big names for 2024 then thats the way to rebuild the squad again hopefully under another coach and create some excitement for fans to re purchase passes.
Hope i am wrong but about Pearson writing off next season but it fits with what is happening now at the club
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| - Quote ="bonaire"Well look at it this way.Unless there is an exciting signing or two coming in which i doubt then pass sales and gate receipts will be well down
in fact i will say HKR will have more passholders than we will have for 2023.
Then you look at all the players off contract for 2024 and the ability to bring in some big names for 2024 then thats the way to rebuild the squad again hopefully under another coach and create some excitement for fans to re purchase passes.
Hope i am wrong but about Pearson writing off next season but it fits with what is happening now at the club'"
Doubt it, anyway clubs don't tend to publish those figures. In terms of seasonal average attendances ours hasn't been lower than Rovers since 1977-78.
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| is houghton on the cap? read somewhere his wage or percentage of it doesnt count
could be one season (ahem) too far next....maybe should have done what yeamo and horney did, retire gracefully, knowing when its time to call it a day
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| Can’t be d to reset the drivel on here, great signing Dwyer has to spell 50/50 with Houghton(not his fault evert coach runs him into the ground) don’t get the Joey love in waste of a quota for me, can only see him at 13 which I don’t think he is. As for Danny his contract will be hardly nothing on the cap as 50k Hull don’t pay as he’s had testimonial with the club, so if he on 60k we are paying 10k. So don’t get the bitching. Balmforth will get game time next season. Hodgson will get next season if we fail again he will be gone.
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| Heard that the club don't see Lovodua as good enough to play 9. Which is why we've hardly seen him there.
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| Quote ="UllFC"As for Joe it may be we got him cheap as an unknown and maybe his 2nd year is a cheap wage too.'" Bingo!
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| Wouldn't have kept Houghton, but most of his salary will be off cap, he is fit and rarely injured, if he can be spelled properly, then that should allow he to run more like he use too.
Dwyer I thought we needed his type of player and he has been very good since Smith took over, nit sure he is as good as some fans are making out, but a one year deal makes sense, see how he goes.
Lovodua is a strange one, but if as rumored he is on a small wage, he is worth having in the squad, one year deal and if he performs he will earn a better deal.
Think if Trueman is out we may see Lovodua at 6, with Houghton and Dwyer as hookers, then hopefully a transition of Lovodua and Dywer, with Balmforth playing the odd game, ready to be part of the 17 in 2024.
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| Quote ="mwindass"Heard that the club don't see Lovodua as good enough to play 9. Which is why we've hardly seen him there.'"
Just don’t understand the club if this is true. The club obviously saw something in him as a hooker to sign him. Just take a look on his highlights on FC live when he was announced. Looks excellent at 9.
Remember the Cas away game back at the start of the season when he came off the bench (late in the game as usual) to play 9. Made such a difference.
If the club don’t rate him as a 9 and even though he is on a low wage then as others have said, it seems a waste of a quota spot which could be used to strengthen other areas.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Quote ="mwindass"Heard that the club don't see Lovodua as good enough to play 9. Which is why we've hardly seen him there.'"
Just don’t understand the club if this is true. The club obviously saw something in him as a hooker to sign him. Just take a look on his highlights on FC live when he was announced. Looks excellent at 9.
Remember the Cas away game back at the start of the season when he came off the bench (late in the game as usual) to play 9. Made such a difference.
If the club don’t rate him as a 9 and even though he is on a low wage then as others have said, it seems a waste of a quota spot which could be used to strengthen other areas.'"
Agree with you RockNRolla, if the club don't see him as good enough for hooker (which is the opposite of what was said when they signed him specifically to play at 9) then why extend his deal? As you say even if his deal is a low one in terms of financial outlay for me its a massive waste of a quota spot especially with the extension given to Houghton for another year. I just don't see where Lovodua fits in as whilst he started well the majority of the season he has been pretty average and certainly isn't a LF or a SR.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Just don’t understand the club if this is true. The club obviously saw something in him as a hooker to sign him. Just take a look on his highlights on FC live when he was announced. Looks excellent at 9.
Remember the Cas away game back at the start of the season when he came off the bench (late in the game as usual) to play 9. Made such a difference.
If the club don’t rate him as a 9 and even though he is on a low wage then as others have said, it seems a waste of a quota spot which could be used to strengthen other areas.'"
Maybe The Club have had talks with him, about where he'll play, and what his role will be, and maybe both parties are happy with the outcome.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Agree with you RockNRolla, if the club don't see him as good enough for hooker (which is the opposite of what was said when they signed him specifically to play at 9) then why extend his deal? As you say even if his deal is a low one in terms of financial outlay for me its a massive waste of a quota spot especially with the extension given to Houghton for another year. I just don't see where Lovodua fits in as whilst he started well the majority of the season he has been pretty average and certainly isn't a LF or a SR.'"
He has to be our starting 9 with Dwyer coming off the bench but he'll be playing all over the place due to injuries like this season.
As you say unless he plays as a 9 it's a waste of a valuable quota place.
Houghton should now be a squad player.
Love to know why they gave a 34 year old on the decline a year option in his favour.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"He has to be our starting 9 with Dwyer coming off the bench but he'll be playing all over the place due to injuries like this season.
As you say unless he plays as a 9 it's a waste of a valuable quota place.
Houghton should now be a squad player.
Love to know why they gave a 34 year old on the decline a year option in his favour.'"
Don't disagree at all and whilst its not Houghtons fault he has been flogged week in week out there has to be some responsibility from Danny to put his hand up and say he can no longer do it for 80 mins week in week out, much like Ellis did.
Danny may well run his blood to water during a game but sadly he is just no longer affective and allowing for an extension (no matter whose favour it was) for a player that would be 34 at the end of current deal and the point of triggering the extension seems bonkers.
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| Quote ="mwindass"https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/every-word-brett-hodgson-said-7503206'"
Good piece that.
Says the right things.
Needs to back the words up with actions and practice what he preaches
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| It's a promising read. Hopefully for the main next season we will see Lovodua starting with Dwyer coming off the bench. Houghton will start when the injuries hit and Lovodua has to cover elsewhere. Balmforth will make a handful of appearances, I imagine.
So much for those in the know who said Lovodua was refusing to play hooker.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Don't disagree at all and whilst its not Houghtons fault he has been flogged week in week out there has to be some responsibility from Danny to put his hand up and say he can no longer do it for 80 mins week in week out, much like Ellis did.
Danny may well run his blood to water during a game but sadly he is just no longer affective and allowing for an extension (no matter whose favour it was) for a player that would be 34 at the end of current deal and the point of triggering the extension seems bonkers.'"
Absolutely agree. No disrespect to Houghton at all. He has been a wonderful servant to the club and massively contributed to our cc wins which will never be forgotten.
If he'd been used correctly over the last few years he would have had more fuel left in the tank and would have probably deserved a contract extension.
I only hope that playing on doesn't block Balmforth's opportunities.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It's a promising read. Hopefully for the main next season we will see Lovodua starting with Dwyer coming off the bench. Houghton will start when the injuries hit and Lovodua has to cover elsewhere. Balmforth will make a handful of appearances, I imagine.
Quote So much for those in the know who said Lovodua was refusing to play hooker.'"
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| Quote ="mwindass"https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/every-word-brett-hodgson-said-7503206'"
Good read, the only thing I’d disagree with is ‘Danny’s leadership is important to us’. If he’s seen as a leader then we’ve had it, it’s not going to get any better.
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