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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Can’t disagree with this, he’s our main man, and in this present team he plays at full back, no arguments, but if we sign a full back who can really bring the ball back with skill bravery and yardage, then Jake goes in the halves or loose man creating havoc without the perpetual spotlight on his defence or pace, actually the pace thing in these positions for Jake becomes less important.
I remember speaking to Phil Lowe about Knocker and how quick he was, he told me over twenty yards Knocker would beat him, but over the longer distance Lowe would easily be the winner, but as we have seen regularly, Jake over shorter yardage causes mayhem, I hope he stays and Jack Walker offers this opportunity for Jake to further his credentials and furthermore becomes the international player Wane is asking from him.'"
Absolutely, if we can get some pace at full back then we should, I laughed at first when someone suggested Jake playing 13 but it kind of makes sense, he won't be as tied down to any structure at 13 he could just float about and pop up where he wants to the only thing would be him defending in the middle would be a no no, he can defend very well but teams would just pick him out every set and tire him out, reducing his impact.
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| Biggest issue with Connor is that we haven't given him any support on the pitch, no wonder he gets frustrated. Hopefully that will be rectified next season.
Does he has faults, yes, which player doesn't but his positives far outweigh the negatives.
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| Stick him in a Saints or Wigan side and everyone would be saying he's world class.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Biggest issue with Connor is that we haven't given him any support on the pitch, no wonder he gets frustrated. Hopefully that will be rectified next season.
Does he has faults, yes, which player doesn't but his positives far outweigh the negatives.'"
This all day long. Jake Connor even with his sometimes questionable temperament is a player any team would want in their ranks as he can be totally unplayable as he has shown.
The issue is not Jake Connor the issue as Dave K has alluded to is the club haven't really given him anyone to support him in terms of sharing the load of creating opportunities other than the Sneyd kicks. Connor is the type of player you build a team around not expect him to do everything which by and large is where I believe a lot of his frustration comes from.
If we manage to get a FB with real pace that has the ability to link up and support play then Connor would be a devastating threat if given a free roaming role.
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| I've just read, we have the option to make walkers loan deal permanent.
If it works out and does well...will we put Conner in the halves with trueman and walker at FB?
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Connor has undoubted skill.
However Can you imagine saints or wigan signing him.
Their template is professional hard work ,gelled with intelligent players. If we are to consistently rival the top two then we need to match with our own.
How many bans in total did Reynolds Connor Gale accrue this season?
They are our leadership group that our young kids are suppose to follow.
No wonder we are on the end of these hammerings when young players on considerably less money see the leadership group churning out casual efforts.'"
Connor has only been banned once and that was after the Wakey game when the slightest touch was being punished. Had that been now, he wouldn't have been banned so you've been a bit unfair there.
Also, his gobby persona is just that, a persona. Off the pitch he's one of the quietest lads and simply gets on with the job. I'll give you Gale and Reynolds, but you can't lump Jake in with their attitude issues.
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| Quote ="Karen"Connor has only been banned once and that was after the Wakey game when the slightest touch was being punished. Had that been now, he wouldn't have been banned so you've been a bit unfair there.
Also, his gobby persona is just that, a persona. Off the pitch he's one of the quietest lads and simply gets on with the job. I'll give you Gale and Reynolds, but you can't lump Jake in with their attitude issues.'"
I think he was also banned for a game, after a pre season friendly Karen, did he not miss a Derby because of this, or am I muddled up “again”
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| Quote ="Dave K."Connor has been banned once hasn't he, first game, very harsh too.
If all our players put the effort in as much as Connor and had half the rugby brains, we wouldn't be in this situation.
Is Connor unprofessional, I've heard the complete opposite, ok he mouths off a bit, but no more than some other players do?'"
The only people I ever see question Connor’s attitude & professionalism all seem to be Jamie Shaul’s mates. Weird that.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I think he was also banned for a game, after a pre season friendly Karen, did he not miss a Derby because of this, or am I muddled up “again”
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You're right, he did, in 2019
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| Find the bashing of Jake Connor from some of our fans astonishing. Comfortably our best player in attack and the stats are there to prove it. When you see how weak our attack is without him you realise that he has affectively been producing the creativity of three players. Full back suites his game, he makes his own space and the luxury of slotting into the line at FB is devastating as we have seen over last couple of years. I think a spine of Connor, Hoy, Trueman and Lovodua/Balmorth would be an exciting one.
I'd be shocked and disappointed if we let him go to another SL side and to be honest I don't see anything in the rumour.
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| Interesting comments, JC certainly does polarise opinions.
I’m sure he’s a lovely kid as Shaul and the other lads are too.
Fact remains he has on field discipline issues when he is integral to the leadership group.
We keep getting on the wrong end of blow out scores. Yes , it’s not all his fault but the leadership group Has to change
if we are to move on and challenge the top teams.
Why have Saints or Wigan never come in for him, not just this season but previous seasons.
Why has he been overlooked for international selection.
If indeed he moves to wire then he will have Williams Ratchford Clarke to play alongside so it will be interesting to see how he goes.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Fact remains he has on field discipline issues when he is integral to the leadership group.
We keep getting on the wrong end of blow out scores. Yes , it’s not all his fault but the leadership group Has to change
if we are to move on and challenge the top teams.'" Connor isn't part of our 'leadership group'.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"
Why have Saints or Wigan never come in for him, not just this season but previous seasons.
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How do you know they haven’t?
Probably plenty of enquiries made for players that we know nothing about?
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| Leadership group= Houghton Taylor Shaul Griffin -All past their best now unfortunately and need to be moved on.Very obvious to majority of fans that the only reason certain people want Connor out,or blame him for anything is due to him being a better fb and all round player than Shaul.But some wanted Last as the coach,and all their local mates in the team,which is pathetic as any fan would want the best team possible surely? The club have for the past 3-4 years been let down by the same players so anyone blaming anybody else apart from that certain little group are living in la la land
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Interesting comments, JC certainly does polarise opinions.
I’m sure he’s a lovely kid as Shaul and the other lads are too.
Fact remains he has on field discipline issues when he is integral to the leadership group.
We keep getting on the wrong end of blow out scores. Yes , it’s not all his fault but the leadership group Has to change
if we are to move on and challenge the top teams.
Why have Saints or Wigan never come in for him, not just this season but previous seasons.
Why has he been overlooked for international selection.
If indeed he moves to wire then he will have Williams Ratchford Clarke to play alongside so it will be interesting to see how he goes.'"
Our biggest 3 defeats have been Saints, Leeds and Catalans this season.
Guess how many of these Connor played in?
When Sarginson is getting picked for England, all credibility of the England squad is lost.
Superbly gifted player with a winning attitude, he doesn't need to be over analysed, just enjoy him, while we have him.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Connor isn't part of our 'leadership group'.'"
Our attack comes through connor! Hence he must be in the leadership group.
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| Quote ="davey41"How do you know they haven’t?
Probably plenty of enquiries made for players that we know nothing about?'"
If saints or wigan had wanted him they would have got him by now .
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Leadership group= Houghton Taylor Shaul Griffin -All past their best now unfortunately and need to be moved on.Very obvious to majority of fans that the only reason certain people want Connor out,or blame him for anything is due to him being a better fb and all round player than Shaul.But some wanted Last as the coach,and all their local mates in the team,which is pathetic as any fan would want the best team possible surely? The club have for the past 3-4 years been let down by the same players so anyone blaming anybody else apart from that certain little group are living in la la land'"
Eh? I’m trying to have a rational debate..It’s childish for posters to suggest Connor criticism is anything to do with Shaul.
It’s nonsense to suggest that Connor isn’t part of the leadership group . The spine of the team is the leadership as that where the team calls and plays are from.
We all want fc to succeed but for the past 4 seasons we have had continual blow out scores.
If posters read again what I’m saying is that the core leaders ( which clearly Connor is one of them ) is letting us down
It’s Not Just Connor!!!
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"If saints or wigan had wanted him they would have got him by now .'"
Rubbish!
They can’t just go out and sign anyone they want?
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"If saints or wigan hald wanted him they would have got him by now .'"
You have no idea if that's true or not, otherwise these two clubs would just sign all the best players in SL, which isn't going to happen for many reason including the salary cap.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Our attack comes through connor! Hence he must be in the leadership group.'"
That's not what leadership group means.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Eh? I’m trying to have a rational debate..It’s childish for posters to suggest Connor criticism is anything to do with Shaul.
It’s nonsense to suggest that Connor isn’t part of the leadership group . The spine of the team is the leadership as that where the team calls and plays are from.
We all want fc to succeed but for the past 4 seasons we have had continual blow out scores.
If posters read again what I’m saying is that the core leaders ( which clearly Connor is one of them ) is letting us down
It’s Not Just Connor!!!'"
I'd quit right now if I were you. If you're going to have a rational argument then you need some facts to back your argument up. Jake is NOT a member of the leadership group, he's just a very talented player who never does anything but his best for the team. Please tell us how you're going to replace the 20 try assists that he'd already made before his injury. Who else shows the same enthusiasm and will to win, that's right, with the exception of the islanders there's nobody.
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| Quote ="Chris71"This all day long. Jake Connor even with his sometimes questionable temperament is a player any team would want in their ranks as he can be totally unplayable as he has shown.
The issue is not Jake Connor the issue as Dave K has alluded to is the club haven't really given him anyone to support him in terms of sharing the load of creating opportunities other than the Sneyd kicks. Connor is the type of player you build a team around not expect him to do everything which by and large is where I believe a lot of his frustration comes from.
If we manage to get a FB with real pace that has the ability to link up and support play then Connor would be a devastating threat if given a free roaming role.'"
I think the club have realised what a full back with real pace can offer in todays game and i fully expect if that happens then Jake will play at 6.
It will be interesting to see how Walker plays over the next months as when he burst onto the scene he was hailed as a future star at Leeds but his injuries like many other players set him back and now as we know he is now their third choice full back.
Dont expect to see a speedster like Bevan French and his ball handling is on a par with Jamie Shaul but if he can get some confidence behind him then he can do a job but would not like to see him signed permanently
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Lost count of bans , sin bins & penalties in his fc career.
Sorry, but I’m not a fan. I don’t want to watch petulance arguing with referees. Just want them to crack on and play rugby.'"
I get you maybe dont like the sledging(which happens in every sport and by most players) but he is the only player in our team with a genuine Rugby brain. He sometimes tries one trick too many but id imagine his errors would be far less with better players around him.
I often think Connor looks like he is upset or talking alot because he has lot more passion then most in our squad. Some of our players dont look d if we lose.
I mean international selection is nothing to gage a player on these days, Dan Sarginson got picked for godsake.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Connor has been banned once hasn't he, first game, very harsh too.
If all our players put the effort in as much as Connor and had half the rugby brains, we wouldn't be in this situation.
Is Connor unprofessional, I've heard the complete opposite, ok he mouths off a bit, but no more than some other players do?'"
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How ridiculous some fans thought of Connor
And he didn't get near a England cap at world cup
Had to prove it "come on you hull" Made me look 2 mins and find it cheers
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