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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Round 10 for Taylor.
I'd definitely put Lovodua in at 9 for Houghton who's been abit scratchy with ball in hand.
Put Reynolds in who loves drawing defenders in and then releasing Connor it's our main weapon.
With Lovodua at 9, the spine has 1 more creative ball handler and alot more creativity.'"
Just think we need Lovodua on for 80mins and him switching from 13 to 9 in a game offers us a lot of opportunity and leaves the opposition with more questions than answers. We also keep Houghton fresher so we maximise his defensive strengths rather than him hitting 60mins and his tank is running on empty.
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| Not sure id play Reynolds after so long out big game to come straight into
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Not sure id play Reynolds after so long out big game to come straight into'"
when you consider how rusty Gale was you have a point but feel sure Reynolds will play.
We need three forwards though on the bench and that last bench spot will be interesting given Johnstone seems to be given the nod.
We have enough to win the game if we cut out the indiscipline but If we continue to put pressure on ourselves then Hudds will win.
When we start well we usually win.
Do it for Adam
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| Quote ="hull2524"On a side note any news on Scotty return?'"
He's been on the verge of returning for 2 years yet hardly seen him
Whens his contract up? 100k a year sat in the stands last 3 years
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| Quote ="Dave K."IMO he is, certainly when he has the ball in hand.
As mentioned do you remember him doing anything of note with the ball except the kick at Leeds, a break, a good run, a great pass? I don't what he offers, IMO waste of cap money.
Criminal that we released Litten then a month later signed Johnstone.'"
Johnstone is similar style to Houghton neither offer much attacking threat
Only difference is Houghton is on probably 4 times more money
Agree should of kept litten all day long he's far better than Houghton and Johnstone imo
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think most of our lads will want to settle a score from last year against Mr Fages!
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think most of our lads will want to settle a score from last year against Mr Fages!
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| 2 pretty evenly matched teams for me. Could go either way.
Let's hope we do out talking on the pitch
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| If Carlos and Reynolds are fit and picked and he goes for Laney at 13 it will be 1-13 that starts the game, can't remember the last time that happened
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| Just looked Taylor signed a 5 YEAR DEAL in 2018
Yes hindsight is a great thing but
Giving a 28 year old prop that length of contract is just ridiculous
Pearson has made a few mistakes and that was one 2 or 3 years would of been fine but 5!
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| Wrong about Houghton's wage again, way off, you'll be even more gutted when his new deal is announced, deserves it for me will be massively missed when he's gone, struggling to see how you can say JJ does the same as Houghton.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Taylor has been out for 3 years on top money hardly good news is it given how skint we are
People moan about Johnstone but he does the exact same thing as Houghton difference is Johnstone is on about 80,000 a year less! Both offer nothing in attack yet rid of all 3'"
You do realise we are one of the highest point scoring teams at the moment?
Amazing given Houghton stifles our attack so much according to you.
And I’ve never seen Johnstone get anywhere near the defensive stats Danny clocks up every week?
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| Houghton isn't the player he was, but offers alot more threat than JJ.
Often gets us on the front foot, backs up well too as we have seen a couple of times this year.
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| Just looked on Sky bet. We are 7th fav to win CC . Only Wakefield behind us. Definitely fancy us now
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| Quote ="davey41"You do realise we are one of the highest point scoring teams at the moment?
Amazing given Houghton stifles our attack so much according to you.
And I’ve never seen Johnstone get anywhere near the defensive stats Danny clocks up every week?'"
How many tries has he scored or set up not many
Tackling again.... Name me a hooker who can't tackle? Every hooker can tackle
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"How many tries has he scored or set up not many
Tackling again.... Name me a hooker who can't tackle? Every hooker can tackle'"
But you said he’s stifling our attack?
Invariably he’s at acting half and first to touch the ball in a move. Therefore he will have had some part to play (however small) in most tries we score.
Christ you sound like you want him to do it all.
Tackling. Very important part of the game. How many hookers make more tackles than he does?
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| Quote ="davey41"But you said he’s stifling our attack?
Invariably he’s at acting half and first to touch the ball in a move. Therefore he will have had some part to play (however small) in most tries we score.
Christ you sound like you want him to do it all.
Tackling. Very important part of the game. How many hookers make more tackles than he does?'"
A under 8 hooker at West hull will do the same then!
Roby daryl Clark make 40 tackles a game yet still have amazing attacking games
Houghton tackles and thats all
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"A under 8 hooker at West hull will do the same then!
Roby daryl Clark make 40 tackles a game yet still have amazing attacking games
Houghton tackles and thats all'"
You serious?
Neither Roby or Clark are currently in the top 20 of super league for tackles?
Guess who is number one?
Neither are they anywhere in the stats for tries or assists?
Strange that!
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| Quote ="davey41"You serious?
Neither Roby or Clark are currently in the top 20 of super league for tackles?
Guess who is number one?
Neither are they anywhere in the stats for tries or assists?
Strange that!'"
You said Houghton touches ball for every try at the play the ball.... Well yeah hookers at Myton or east Leeds will do the same someone has to pass the ball from dummy half
Andy ackers is 2nd
Sam Powell 3rd
Oh yeah all 3 are hookers!
Houghton isn't on the assist list either what's your point?
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"You said Houghton touches ball for every try at the play the ball.... Well yeah hookers at Myton or east Leeds will do the same someone has to pass the ball from dummy half
Andy ackers is 2nd
Sam Powell 3rd
Oh yeah all 3 are hookers!
Houghton isn't on the assist list either what's your point?'"
How many hookers are in the top 20?
If you want to use stats I'd suggest you do some research first or you will look stupid, particularly on try involvements you have mentioned.
So let's look at those stats, you often mention Clarke and Roby
Houghton 2 trys, 2 assists
Roby 2 trys 2 assists
Clarke 1 try 0 assists
So Houghtons try contributions compare to other top hookers so far this year.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"How many tries has he scored or set up not many
Tackling again.... Name me a hooker who can't tackle? Every hooker can tackle'"
I posted this on the Wigan thread and it appears it shut you up, I’ll try again.
“So single handedly Houghton has held our attack back. Preposterous, we haven’t had an attack to speak of for 5 years. Radford’s 5 drives and a Sneyd kick held it back. We saw glimpses of Hodgson’s attacking style last year but definitely this year and Danny has played a full part. Why have you got such a massive downer on our collective team and coach. I’d hate to be next to you at a game but you probably don’t attend, there used to be a lot of so called supporters like you at The Boulevard, but at least they paid to criticise. Clueless.”
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| In regards to the discussion re Houghton, its not that he isn't good enough anymore the issue is more how we have used or rather overused him for years. Unfortunately he is no longer the player he was 5 years ago and we can not expect him to continue week in week out to perform at a consistent level if we are flogging him for 80mins every week.
That is for me that is the issue that we need to address, playing him but spelling him in games we would get much more benefit and see a big difference in games. Leaving him on for 80mins does us little favour as by about the 60min mark he's practically out of gas.
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| Quote ="Chris71"In regards to the discussion re Houghton, its not that he isn't good enough anymore the issue is more how we have used or rather overused him for years. Unfortunately he is no longer the player he was 5 years ago and we can not expect him to continue week in week out to perform at a consistent level if we are flogging him for 80mins every week.
That is for me that is the issue that we need to address, playing him but spelling him in games we would get much more benefit and see a big difference in games. Leaving him on for 80mins does us little favour as by about the 60min mark he's practically out of gas.'"
Fully agree but the lack of first teamers either through injury or suspension has unfortunately meant he’s been used for the full 80 minutes, now we have practically a full squad, I expect Lovodua to play loose man and Lane to come off the bench so Lovodua can spell Houghton.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Fully agree but the lack of first teamers either through injury or suspension has unfortunately meant he’s been used for the full 80 minutes, now we have practically a full squad, I expect Lovodua to play loose man and Lane to come off the bench so Lovodua can spell Houghton.'"
Not always, a few times he has an unused sub, could have give Johnstone a spell there last week.
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| Reynolds for Wynne our strongest squad of the season only really Tag missing now. Come on you Huulllaaaa
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