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| Who’s to say Purtill would have done any better in the circumstances?
Then we’d have been saying get rid of him and give it to Last.
Like is said previously, we’re paying the price for hanging onto Radford a year too long, and now we’re in a totally different financial situation.
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| Quote ="ccs"Here you go again, there's a pandemic if you haven't noticed, the club is close to bankruptcy and the the future of the whole game is in doubt, who in their right mind would give up a job, move over to Hull and potentially risk everything?
Hope that's clear enough for you.'"
So you're saying a RL coach in rugby league wouldn't move to Hull, another RL Club, playing RL because of risk? Surely all clubs are in a similar situation anyway so why would it matter, the risk seems the same regardless of where you are, so it wouldn't be any more of a risk but down to individual choice.
Also you know not of our financial situation fully and whilst I except the constraints the pandemic has posed for everyone, who knows what next season may bring and/or what cap we may have available, you certainly don't.
AP if he advertises for a new coach he would need to be sure the finances were in place first and foremost so how would that be a further risk for a coach, knowing that the money was there?
They're so many variables at play to accurately assume you know what's occurring.
But in normal circumstances do you think we'd be an attractive proposition or do you still think no one would jump at the chance to coach us?
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| Quote ="ccs"Here you go again, there's a pandemic if you haven't noticed, the club is close to bankruptcy and the the future of the whole game is in doubt, who in their right mind would give up a job, move over to Hull and potentially risk everything?
Hope that's clear enough for you.'"
Oh this might help though;
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A deal for the Premier League to support lower-league clubs during the coronavirus pandemic "could be reached this coming week".
Might take a bit of pressure off the government when the RFL try to broker some kind of longer term financial support.
So maybe not all doom and gloom
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"=#FF0000Original post edited
So you're saying a RL coach in rugby league wouldn't move to Hull, another RL Club, playing RL because of risk? Surely all clubs are in a similar situation anyway so why would it matter, the risk seems the same regardless of where you are, so it wouldn't be any more of a risk but down to individual choice.
Also you know not of our financial situation fully and whilst I except the constraints the pandemic has posed for everyone, who knows what next season may bring and/or what cap we may have available, you certainly don't.
AP if he advertises for a new coach he would need to be sure the finances were in place first and foremost so how would that be a further risk for a coach, knowing that the money was there?
They're so many variables at play to accurately assume you know what's occurring.
But in normal circumstances do you think we'd be an attractive proposition or do you still think no one would jump at the chance to coach us?
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My argument is based on no money being available in the short to medium term,
and you seem to agree that it could be a factor .... "AP if he advertises for a new coach he would need to be sure the finances were in place first and foremost".
So if there's no money you don't/can't advertise.
If there is money available, then great, but the noises AP is making suggest life is getting very difficult.
Are we an attractive proposition under normal circumstance? If you were a typical Hull supporter, I'd have my doubts.
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| If true, that Pearson as not paid any or very little season pass money back, plus had money from 16m government rescue package, plus other government schemes, I’m really not sure Pearson will be that much out of pocket, think we’ve sold a lot of merchandise during the period to. Obviously future income could be a problem depending on what happens with Covid, but think the usual suspects are scare mongering as usual
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"If true, that Pearson as not paid any or very little season pass money back, plus had money from 16m government rescue package, plus other government schemes, I’m really not sure Pearson will be that much out of pocket, think we’ve sold a lot of merchandise during the period to. Obviously future income could be a problem depending on what happens with Covid, but think the usual suspects are scare mongering as usual'"
Is Wilf one of the usual suspects?
Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Well Adam Pearson has a actually been on national TV on Politics live at lunchtime today and his expression was that Rugby league Clubs if they cannot open their gates before next March face financial 'armagheddon' and clubs will start to die over the coming weeks, he wasn't laughing about it, in fact I've never seen him more serious or worried.'"
And if you believe Rimmer, he reckons RL is losing £2m a week at the moment, £16m isn't going to last very long.
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| All levels of sport, outside of the premier league, are facing financial meltdown if things don’t change. I really believe that.
How can clubs persuade people to remain members, when there’s no guarantee of when they can see games in 2021?. This years goodwill won’t last forever, and people may also be in a different financial position personally.
I’m an occasional fan at lower league football and ice hockey, and they’ll be in the same position as rugby league.
Fans also won’t be buying as much merchandise, as they can’t go to games to wear it.
Just looks grim to me. Hope I’m wrong.
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| The FC forums favourite type of thread (sack the coach) is back I see.
Hello darkness my old friend
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| Quote ="ccs"Is Wilf one of the usual suspects?
And if you believe Rimmer, he reckons RL is losing £2m a week at the moment, £16m isn't going to last very long.'"
Haha well I wasn’t thinking about wilf, but yeh whatever, time will tell I guess, but even Pearson is giving himself until March next year, so like I said future income could be a problem for hull and Pearson. Pearson’s a business man, I’d be very surprised if he hasn’t done ok during these tough times. Rl might be in trouble as a whole, Pearson, not a chance
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| AP still needs the rest of SL to survive, he may be the best business in the world, but if most other clubs sink then we'll sink with them.
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| Quote ="ccs"AP still needs the rest of SL to survive, he may be the best business in the world, but if most other clubs sink then we'll sink with them.'"
We’ll have a ten team Super League. Made up of the ten clubs that remain in England.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"The FC forums favourite type of thread (sack the coach) is back I see.
Hello darkness my old friend'"
Well Last wouldn't be sacked of course given that he's only an interim head coach.
I guess a prospective new head coach would decide whether he wanted Last as an assistant.
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But CCS said no coach would want to come to Hull
If accurate that's very promising news and just what would be needed to instill a sense of optimism back into the faithful and hopefully maintain or boost pass sales.
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| So Last is saying the reason were consistently rubbish is down to the 'external' players???
No its down to the consistently e coaching!
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| Odd comments, when people like Sao, Ma'u etc have been consistently good. It's the 'internal' players who go into cruise control, comfortable, think they're untouchable that is the issue
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| It's nonsense from Last. Surely players signed by Wigan, Warrington , Saints and Leeds all feel the pressure too.
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There’s a guy who’s just been appointed as Assistant at St. George. Got over 15 years of first grade coaching experience, having previously been assistant at the Sharks, Wests Tigers, Parramatta Eels, South Sydney Rabbitohs and Brisbane Broncos.
Would maybe be a good appointment?
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/st ... ing-staff/
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There’s a guy who’s just been appointed as Assistant at St. George. Got over 15 years of first grade coaching experience, having previously been assistant at the Sharks, Wests Tigers, Parramatta Eels, South Sydney Rabbitohs and Brisbane Broncos.
Would maybe be a good appointment?
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/st ... ing-staff/
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And that's why I'm trying to say to you, you can't predict tomorrow's events on today's activity.
Only those from within the club and sport know what's really occurring and they're not going to readily share it with us.
You can't go around making bold predictions when the situation is so fluid.
It's pleasing to see we're looking at coaching recruitment for next season.
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And that's why I'm trying to say to you, you can't predict tomorrow's events on today's activity.
Only those from within the club and sport know what's really occurring and they're not going to readily share it with us.
You can't go around making bold predictions when the situation is so fluid.
It's pleasing to see we're looking at coaching recruitment for next season.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Odd comments, when people like Sao, Ma'u etc have been consistently good. It's the 'internal' players who go into cruise control, comfortable, think they're untouchable that is the issue'"
Not sure how well that comment will go down TBH with some players.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Not sure how well that comment will go down TBH with some players.'"
Houghton can sod off to Toronto if he doesn't like the truth, he has been average at best for two seasons.
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"Houghton can sod off to Toronto if he doesn't like the truth, he has been average at bezt for two seasons.'"
You didn't read Shaw's article then?
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| Quote ="ccs"You didn't read the article then?'"
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"which article. I am not in the habit of trawling through endless pages of the same old excuses.'"
So you reply to a quote not having the faintest idea what it was referring to.
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