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| Quote ="fosdyke99"these threads really get tedious after a defeat.we played crap.end of.'"
We also played crap in the second half at Wakefield but luckily we won
Crap second half at Wakefield,crap second half against Salford the following week has to tell the coach something
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| Quote ="bonaire"We also played crap in the second half at Wakefield but luckily we won
Crap second half at Wakefield,crap second half against Salford the following week has to tell the coach something'"
Go on, I'll nibble. What does it tell the coach?
Against Wakey we scored first in the second half to put us 20 points up. The stats show we actually held on to the ball better in the second half. That our attack went flat was partly due to game management and seeing the game out which we were never in danger of losing. The quality of the game on the whole was below par, but you choose to say we were crap??
Against Salford, it was level at half time and we conceded two early tries after the break. We then tried, very unsuccessfully to play catch up. Admittedly we were crap in that game, for all the gam except about 15 mins in the first half.
I fail to see the connection you are wanting to make.
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| We need a fresh approach.Our current squad don’t seem to responding to Radford.
But , all just conjecture. As Pearson has said, Radford will always be in charge while he owns the Club !
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"these threads really get tedious after a defeat.we played crap.end of.'"
We have a winner, my thoughts exactly.
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| Agree. Theres opinions then there's constant whining
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| Quote ="hull2524"Agree. Theres opinions then there's constant whining'"
There'll always be folk who are only happy when they're miserable. Sounds odd, but its true.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Agree. Theres opinions then there's constant whining'"
Aaaahhh but for some there’s opinions, then there’s constantly repeating them, trying to convince themselves and everyone else they’re right.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Aaaahhh but for some there’s opinions, then there’s constantly repeating them, trying to convince themselves and everyone else they’re right.'"
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, and again, and again, and again ……….
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"NURSE.....help needed for Wizeb....looks like the meds have worn off.'"
I'd probably stop getting things right all the time if they upped my dosage.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Which team would have more chance of winning a grand final:
St Helens coached by Lee Radford
Hull FC coached by Justin Holbrook
Not being antagonistic, just wondered if it’s squad strength or coaching systems that are most important to developing a champion side.'"
Had the question been about the Challenge Cup it would have been comprehensively answered today. 2-0. And without marquee players.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Had the question been about the Challenge Cup it would have been comprehensively answered today. 2-0. And without marquee players.'"
But it wasn’t
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"But it wasn’t'"
Still, a maximum of 1 major trophy with every recruitment and resource advantage at his disposal. He's very good but is he great?
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| St Helens would probably be celebrating tonight if Radford was their coach. That's a coach who can bring home the bacon.
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| The concern now then is that radford will likely be tempted over to be a head coach in the NRL
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| Only semi final/final he has won was against Halifax.
Lost 3 semi's and one final in his tenure.
Be interesting if they dont win the GF if he tenure is seen as a success or not.
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| Saint clearly have issues after this Wembley defeat, a poor coach with poor tactics, clueless in attack, too many errors, silly penalties.....
Yes, you've heard it all before.
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| Good to see Saints and the super coach choke, What does everyone think that try to ridicule our coach that has taken us to this final and win it on both occasions with squads less superior then the mighty 2019 saints side?
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| Quote ="bonaire"A little disrespectful Mr Wiz to the coach who has produced the best team by far in Super League
We already know who the daddy is between the two coaches and its certainly not Radford'"
They weren't the best team by far yesterday.
Bottled it again when they had everything in their favour.
If his best team, by far, don't win the GF then he'll be forgotten about not long after his departure.
Is our new Aussie coach you insinuated we'd have installed for Easter gone, still on his way?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Good to see Saints and the super coach choke, What does everyone think that try to ridicule our coach that has taken us to this final and win it on both occasions with squads less superior then the mighty 2019 saints side?'"
Don't hold your breath Radford had to negotiate tougher routes to Wembley both times too, of course.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Don't hold your breath
Radford had to negotiate tougher routes to Wembley both times too, of course.'"
Hard to believe there were fans of ours, and Warrington, who were blase about winning the semi for the fear of getting pumped by the best team by far in the final.
Think we may have come away victorious as well if we had managed to endure in rainy Bolton......We gave it a good shot.
Wembley becoming a favourites graveyard with our two wins, the French last year and now the best team by far getting soundly beat.
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| Quote ="ccs"Saint clearly have issues after this Wembley defeat, a poor coach with poor tactics, clueless in attack, too many errors, silly penalties.....
Yes, you've heard it all before.
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"Look at what Powell has achieved" No major trophies so far.
"Look at what Holbrook had achieved" No major trophies so far
Pivoting from one comparator to another each season yet not really looking at what Radford has achieved. 2 major trophies so far.
The coaches attracting most criticism should be the ones with most resource vs least major silverware. Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Wigan should clean up every time. Anyone breaking into that group is punching above their weight.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista""Look at what Powell has achieved" No major trophies so far.
"Look at what Holbrook had achieved" No major trophies so far
Pivoting from one comparator to another each season yet not really looking at what Radford has achieved. 2 major trophies so far.
The coaches attracting most criticism should be the ones with most resource vs least major silverware. Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Wigan should clean up every time. Anyone breaking into that group is punching above their weight.'"
As usual talking complete e wind up material, if you think winning the cc is a barometer of how good a coach you are, your more stupid then I thought. Catalan, McNamara, no thank you
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"As usual talking complete poop wind up material, if you think winning the cc is a barometer of how good a coach you are, your more stupid then I thought. Catalan, McNamara, no thank you'"
No need to swear, surely?
Radford has won 2 major trophies. Holbrook not so much. We are mid table in terms of resource, yet finished top 3 in 2016 and 2017, won the cup both years. This season despite early injuries we made yet another cup semi final and are currently joint 2nd. We'll likely finish 6th but even so most pundits had us 9th or 8th. Winning major trophies is a barometer of coaching ability. Lee was voted Coach of the year partially on the strength of it, don't forget.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"No need to swear, surely?
Radford has won 2 major trophies. Holbrook not so much. We are mid table in terms of resource, yet finished top 3 in 2016 and 2017, won the cup both years. This season despite early injuries we made yet another cup semi final and are currently joint 2nd. We'll likely finish 6th but even so most pundits had us 9th or 8th. Winning major trophies is a barometer of coaching ability. Lee was voted Coach of the year partially on the strength of it, don't forget.'"
If you want to back all your loyalty on the back off 2 cc cup wins under Radford, that’s up to you, but like a lot of other hull fans, who can actually see past that, and see the absolute rubbish we have served up, for at least 4 seasons, I’m bored of it, I said it through the cc winning seasons. We ain’t good to watch, as much as I like radford, I don’t think he’s the man for the job, regardless of trophies, I’d rather watch a hull team playing like saints week in week out, and lose a final, then the tripe I’ve watched for seasons now, it’s boring boring boring, just ing boring
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| B.ugger of and watch Saints then, Simples
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