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Just because he has no tangible evidence it does not mean it did not happen.
Unless the verbal evidence has been recorded or winesses come forward what do you expect this guy to do.

The fact he has made the claim and made it public, based on the balance of probability means it probably has happened.

You being defensive or protective with your various and varying "can he provide evidence" claims does not help.

Raynors is (was) on Hessle Road. I remember a Star and Garter behind the old bus station near the old Spring Street Theatre. Great pub.

OT, It will take more than stadium bans to stop some folk. not really sure how a stadium ban is enforced to be honest. Its not as if every steward is going to remember the face of every banned fan.

As has been mentioned, if you get caught lobbing stuff in any direction within a crowded areas, you are endangering many and the threat of a custodial would hopefully make a few think twice.

There were a fair few bottles thrown on to the pitch Street the last Warrington try. I was up in the touchline stand and saw it just rain with pint pots and bottles (including one idiot who ran the length of the stand to throw his from a closer point). Worst I've seen fit years unfortunately from us. It was an embarrassment and I hope the club ban them.

As for "who cares what the press think", I reckon our sponsors and any future potential sponsors care. And fans who want to go to games without fear of drunken idiots showering them or getting hit by a bottle, or bring racially abused.

It's not everyone. It's not even a majority. But one is too many and if we don't look like we're stamping it out then we look like we're accepting it and the problem will grow.

Why the quotation marks?

The Hessle Road pub was for years colloquially called Raynors simply because it was the name of a famous past Landlord, Harry Raynor back in the 1920's but it was always actually the Star and Garter it only changed to the 'more trendy' Rayners in later years.

It was Star behind bus station MmJ, sadly no longer a pub, it served lovely Tetley bitter, and I frequently used it over the years, managers included, Mally, Keith & Mavis, Pete Robbi. Happy days

It’s a shame it’s not on a weekend, you could have gone round our splendid marina, and had a look round Humber street and the new vogue area of Hull.

Humber sesh this weekend to , would of been a good weekend for the wiganers

I don’t really know if he is a journalist or reporter, or internet blogger, I hope this suffices your interest in my grammatical failings.

Have you got any thoughts on this situation, or is it just the tippex.

Think at Rogues age he would have preferred the sea shanty last week



The sesh is quite a few bob as well.

What do I expect him to do, prove it, it’s a serious accusation.

I make no apologies for being defensive or protective of the club I love, certainly not to the forum bully.

Who is the forum bully you speak of?

I've already given my opinion.

It's a serious matter. He's obviously a TV sports reporter hence why he was recording for Calendar at the game.

Don't challenge him, he'll accuse you of bullying next

Thanks, perhaps because I was at the game, and have not watched it back, “it’s still raw” my knowledge of this TV reporter is limited, in fact I’d never heard of him.

“Your right it’s a serious matter, I’ve not said anything but this.
I very rarely use a dictionary or google, but if you are marking my work like a school master, perhaps I should”

Unquote.

Are you looking for friends, I’ll be your huckleberry

Nah, I'm alright thanks.

Maybe think carefully before throwing out the accusation of bully next time or at least understand the actual definition. I deplore bullies and will always defend myself and others from such. Just the kinda guy I am.

And all I was saying to you was not to be so defensive or protective of the club when some guy has been racially abused.
We are all ambassadors for Hull on match days and this accusation hurts me as much as it does you but not at the expense of an individual who's been abused by some idiot. In a way you're defending the racist with your 'until you have proof' quote, I'm not saying for 1 minute you are 1 however.

Think self policing could be the way forward and unacceptable behaviour needs challenging before during and after games if it's detrimental to Hull.

Firstly, you asked “who is the forum bully” implying you were unsure.

Now you seem to have accepted it was directed at you, when actually it was the forum bully, as a whole.

Now then as I stated, I will defend the club I love with a passion, and if a journalist, makes allegations that a Hull supporter has racially abused him, and he has recorded this on film, and apparently with sound, how the fek am I defending the racist by asking him to provide the evidence to the police, or relevant authorities.

And I suggest you think more carefully, when replying over racist issues, I am defending racism, by asking the victim to seek out justice. How does that work.

Such mixed messages you put out, supporting the victim yet defending the club and requiring proof


You clearly do not understand the complexity or reference.
This is down to victim perception, no evidence is required.
A crime may have occurred but no evidence to identify a suspect.

I do not need to think more carefully in my replies regarding racism thank you.
I may be more qualified than you think on the subject but thanks for your concern.

we had problems with smoke bombs and other stuff earlier this season and the back end of last year, and the club started coming down on idiots pretty harsh, cos we had been warned the World Cup bidding team that it could affect our application.

Looks like the RFL are looking into the alleged racial insult so hopefully the culprit (if proven guilty) receives an appropriate punishment. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... sh-injury/ Disappointed neither the RFL or the club seem concerned about the bottle throwing. I know it's difficult to identify those responsible but a statement of condemnation from AP wouldn't go amiss. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... es-3145497

Looks like the RFL are looking into the alleged racial insult so hopefully the culprit (if proven guilty) receives an appropriate punishment. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... sh-injury/ Disappointed neither the RFL or the club seem concerned about the bottle throwing. I know it's difficult to identify those responsible but a statement of condemnation from AP wouldn't go amiss. https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... es-3145497