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| Quote ="secondstanza"Having slept on it;
This is the image Hull Daily Mail are using;
It's not as tucked in as some are implying but it's not high either. I think it boils down to the fact that it's the non ball carrying arm. He has the ball in his left arm and it's nothing but a poor read from Mickey Mac but clearly the message has gone out to the refs, dangerous contact will be punished. We've seen two yellows in two weeks for marginal crusher tackles. I still feel that if it was the other way round and a Wigan player had been sent off I'd support that decision but I can totally see why Hull fans feel somewhat agrieved. I have played the game and have been penalised for raising the forearm into contact.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.'"
hes already out cold in that picture, that's after the initial contact, did he get sent off for raising is arm after the dipshiiiiite ran into is elbow. Ref got it wrong , dipshiiiite got it wrong, 100% not a sending off no matter how you try interpret it |
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| Quote ="secondstanza"Having slept on it;
This is the image Hull Daily Mail are using;
It's not as tucked in as some are implying but it's not high either. I think it boils down to the fact that it's the non ball carrying arm. He has the ball in his left arm and it's nothing but a poor read from Mickey Mac but clearly the message has gone out to the refs, dangerous contact will be punished. We've seen two yellows in two weeks for marginal crusher tackles. I still feel that if it was the other way round and a Wigan player had been sent off I'd support that decision but I can totally see why Hull fans feel somewhat agrieved. I have played the game and have been penalised for raising the forearm into contact.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.'"
If mcilorums head is 6 inches higher and watts does exactly the same then he tackles watts and the game continues so is watts at fault or mcillorum? |
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| Quote ="secondstanza"Having slept on it;
This is the image Hull Daily Mail are using;
It's not as tucked in as some are implying but it's not high either. I think it boils down to the fact that it's the non ball carrying arm. He has the ball in his left arm and it's nothing but a poor read from Mickey Mac but clearly the message has gone out to the refs, dangerous contact will be punished. We've seen two yellows in two weeks for marginal crusher tackles. I still feel that if it was the other way round and a Wigan player had been sent off I'd support that decision but I can totally see why Hull fans feel somewhat agrieved. I have played the game and have been penalised for raising the forearm into contact.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.'"
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Thought the sending off was a bit harsh but at the end of the day he raises his forearm and knocks a player unconscious. Sometimes you'll get the rub of the green and get away with that but you really can't complain if you don't. Calling the game fixed based on that is laughable, nobody made Watts do it especially not Hicks or the RFL, and even more ridiculous when you consider how happy you all were to see Clubb's Wembley try chalked off to give you the cup.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"
Thought the sending off was a bit harsh but at the end of the day he raises his forearm and knocks a player unconscious. Sometimes you'll get the rub of the green and get away with that but you really can't complain if you don't. Calling the game fixed based on that is laughable, nobody made Watts do it especially not Hicks or the RFL, and even more ridiculous when you consider how happy you all were to see Clubb's Wembley try chalked off to give you the cup.'"
It's impossible to be sure that last night's sending off was the deciding factor in Hull losing in the same way it's impossible to say the Clubb disallowed try cost Wigan the Cup. |
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It's impossible to be sure that last night's sending off was the deciding factor in Hull losing in the same way it's impossible to say the Clubb disallowed try cost Wigan the Cup.'"
Finally someone says it. Same as when Wigan fans call the '14 GF a "moral victory" because of the sending off. Often teams up their game to account for the missing man and often teams with the advantage slack off so it's absolutely impossible to say so. |
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| Quote ="OFFTHECUFF"Love it Wigan won. Best team got the result. Come on Lancashire.boom.'"
Are you for real. It took you 70 minutes to beat 12 men.if watts hadn't Been sent off and the try from a forward pass not been allowed,you would have lost easily. |
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"Are you for real. It took you 70 minutes to beat 12 men.if watts hadn't Been sent off and the try from a forward pass not been allowed,you would have lost easily.'"
But Watts was sent off and the pass wasn't forward so we won. Dry your eyes and get over it eh?  |
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"Are you for real. It took you 70 minutes to beat 12 men.if watts hadn't Been sent off and the try from a forward pass not been allowed,you would have lost easily.'"
But we didn't  u need a hand looking for your dummy? |
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Hopefully common sense will prevail and he'll get sos
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Not a true reflection really. His arm was maybe 8 inches away from his body. That image is from after his arm hit McIlorum where the impact pushes his arm back to his body. |
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| Jimml fix it  |
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It's as though you think we haven't all seen the replay that shows his elbow moving upwards and away from his body. Look, I don't think it was malicious and while the red was a bit harsh it's also one of those decisions that you just can't complain about when they go against you. I'm sure the disciplinary will decide SOS. Trying to mislead anyone into thinking his arm was "tucked in" is just plain stupid though as we can all see otherwise with our own eyes. |
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It's as though you think we haven't all seen the replay that shows his elbow moving upwards and away from his body. Look, I don't think it was malicious and while the red was a bit harsh it's also one of those decisions that you just can't complain about when they go against you. I'm sure the disciplinary will decide SOS. Trying to mislead anyone into thinking his arm was "tucked in" is just plain stupid though as we can all see otherwise with our own eyes. | |
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| Quote ="hatty"But we didn't
u need a hand looking for your dummy?'"
Go and munch on one of your Manky pies.how long was you sucking on your dummy after wembley  |
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Neutral here.
But... Any malicious intent came from Mac. Watts raising arm purely instinctive with no intent. I think the seriousness of injury was a deciding factor in the dismissal, game on TV, video ref in his ear. Micky Mac is an old type RL fixer. He wants to "sort" one or two opposition hard men out, but what comes round goes round. Incidentally, I don't think Micky will blame Watts, but it will go in the memory bank.
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The photo on the hdm paints a different picture.
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The photo on the hdm paints a different picture.
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| Quote ="Logger"Neutral here.
But... Any malicious intent came from Mac. Watts raising arm purely instinctive with no intent. I think the seriousness of injury was a deciding factor in the dismissal, game on TV, video ref in his ear. Micky Mac is an old type RL fixer. He wants to "sort" one or two opposition hard men out, but what comes round goes round. Incidentally, I don't think Micky will blame Watts, but it will go in the memory bank.'"
MM has said Watts wasn't to blame. I'm a bit confused at how you attribute any "malicious intent" onto him though.  |
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Worth mentioning that the OP is not a hull supporter, it's difficult to work out where his allegiances lie, but he's clearly out to stir things up.
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If rugby league had the same level of scrutiny as horse racing then their would be an inquiry after every game !!!
But having said that I have no reason to doubt the integrity of the officials, their competency is another question.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"The photo on the hdm paints a different picture.'"
The photo shows that MM's head has pushed LW's arm back down. It's not the initial point of contact. |
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| Quote ="Logger"The photo shows that MM's head has pushed LW's arm back down. It's not the initial point of contact.'"
No it doesn't.
But thanks for telling me.... |
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| Is it fixed? It looked it last night.  |
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yes,but it didn't work last night
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Is it fixed? It looked it last night.
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u need a hand looking for your dummy?
