Have to agree to disagree, Sneyd is behind Connor when it comes to his pairing with Kelly and Sneyd's general demeanour on the pitch, Griffin would not be playing if the full squad was fit, he cost us a few times against Cas and hasn't shown much else.

fair point we do see different things on the pitch, looks like connor will be playing fri,

Ah, I didn't realise that he had been "dropped" to the bench.
There's me thinking it's a 17 man squad, with player rotations.
I guess resting players can be classed as dropped as well when it suits.

Part of me wants to go, but Headingley on a Friday night is a pig to get to, I may change my mind before Friday, depends what comes out of the club in the coming days, I don't have the stomach for more excuses.

Wow, you are seriously revelling in a player's injury. I honestly don't know how anyone can enjoy a player getting injured in the way you have. How very sad.

Losing a starting place to the bench is, to me, being dropped. Not a case of "when it suits", but that's up to your interpretation. My opinion is that Connor and Kelly were working well.

I don't disagree about Connor and Kelly working well, but we also need Sneyd to be working well.
He's not going to regain his form if he's not playing, and losing Kelly for key games at this stage of the season is bound to have been a worry. And now it's happened.
It's not as if the Kelly/Connor combination had been excluded from the Saints game.

We'll see what Friday brings, an 80 minute effort would be good!

Noticed someone criticise Griffin earlier on. Apart from maybe Fonua he's been our best player across the last two games imo. Much better from him. Obviously if Kelly is out then Connor will play 6, but if everyone is fit I'd quite like to see us go away from convention a little and try Connor at 13. He is big and physical enough to play there imo and gives us that extra pivot which would allow Shaul to roam around looking to get on the end of things rather than being involved in too many passing plays.

For me Sneyd just doesn't take the line in enough and against St's I don't think he did much if at all. It may not be a part of his game but when he actually done it he has looked a far better player. Think the difference when Connor/Kelly we're playing teams were second guessing due to the running and unpredictablilty of the partnership where as Sneyd can be very predictable at times.
Hopefully Kelly won't be out too long but he has been targeted a lot of late so but of a break may do him some good.

If we can all see this, then presumably our coach can and should be encouraging him to run more and kick less. As you say he looks a completely different player when he backs himself. Lets hope Friday is the day he starts to show it regularly.

People have been saying that for a while now, is it an element of laziness or is he lacking confidence?

Can't really blame any kr fan for enjoying Kelly getting injured when you consider what he did to rovers and the end result.I'd feel the same TBH. It's not like he's in hospital with a suspected broken neck or even a career ending injury. Always going to get stick though for posting on here and quite right. Fingers crossed fit for the semi but if not 90%+( no players 100% this time of year) wouldn't risk it.

Absolutely agree, criticism of Griffin on his last two performances is completely unjustified IMO.

FFS will people stop going on about Sneyd attacking the line!!!! Its not his game!!!! Hes an organiser and a kicker - now these are areas he could improve on as hes very hot and cold and needs more consistency but lots of that depends on how the teams playing. The pack doesnt have to be dominating but the team has to be playing good percentage rugby for Sneyds game to work and unfortunately too many errors ruin our percentage plays and nullifies Sneyds key attributes

FFS as you put it whilst it may not be his game in your opinion the fact he actually has the ability to do it and when he does he looks a far better player is what is frustrating as he has shown this season. So to say it's not his game is tosh when he's shown he can do it, otherwise he his a one trick pony and totally predictable.

Exactly. For the shift plays to work, he needs to engage defenders but he doesn't. Therefore, defenders sit off him and its easier for them to shift across and cover the runners

Thats my point, don't get me wrong I like Sneyd as a player but what really stood out during the game against St's is that he very rarely got close to the St's defensive line which made our attacking threat non existent and St's found it easy to contain. When he actually takes to the line and draws in one or two defenders that then allows for us as the attacking team to open up the holes created in the defensive line. This he has proved he can do and is in his game. Now I am not talking about him breaking the line etc just that he needs to engage the defenders more as when he does this not only does he create doubt in the defensively line etc he also creates holes in the defensive line which he himself has utilised and gone through.

Back on topic re Kelly hopefully his issue isn't too serious and is carrying a knock rather than an injury as such. He has looked to be carrying a knock the last few games and has been targeted quite heavily by opposing teams. Question Radford has now is if Albert is not 100% does he risk him on Friday or rest him?

Connor is more than an able replacement for Kelly if needed to rest him.

I could never enjoy a player being injured....relieved if we're due to play them lol, but never gloat like that.

Finally someone with a bit of sense.
If Danny Houghton or Gareth Ellis pulled up for example, there wouldn't be a single part of me that would think 'they deserve it'. These two are fine players, loyal and have done more in their game over here then Kelly could ever envisage.

I'd say the same if Kelly signed for Saints or someone. It's not anti Fc in the slightest.

There's some players who even as a opposing fan you just can't help respect and like. Ellis and Houghton obviously fit that mould for a lot of non hull supporters. For myself James Roby is a perfect example of a player I can't ever remember getting angry at. Even when he's scored trys against us ( and there's been plenty ) I find myself being angry we've allowed it more than anything. Most players are decent guys and some simply don't help themselves. Kelly falls into the latter for kr fans just as cookie did for us. I used to hate barrie mac when he played for leeds but after reading his book and then meeting him found him to be a top bloke. It's pantomime at the end of the day. In every great story you need someone to love and route for and someone to hate.

Excellent post - we all have players who we dislike when they play against our teams. Cunningham at Saints would score from acting half and you knew it was coming but couldn't be prevented. He was always respected though. Chase, on the other hand who is a brilliant player, is despised because of his personality which shows in his play. Many supporters would be happy to see him injured. Kelly let Rovers down very badly when they needed him most and left Hudgell with no other option but to sack him. The result was a much weaker Rovers team with two vital games to play both of which were lost by one point. I and many others believe we would have remained in super league had he not gone walkabout. He would have been loathed wherever he went but going to the dark side only makes it easier to wish him bad fortune. This is not peculiar to Rovers fans, Cookie actually feared for his own safety for a while from angry FC fans. As you say it's all a pantomime.

Thats one view point and could well be a very well be the real one, but I doubt there are many that know the full facts of the situation.

Could well be that Hudgell is poor at man management. Lets face it, he does let his emotions as a fan take over some times.

Anyone who would be happy to see a player injured is a moron. There's no 'pantomime' about that.