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| Quote ="Towns88"What's surprising ? I'm certainly not gunna say we will win but we are "run away" leaders so of course the bookies will make us favourites for the game at the weekend. 1/2 is fairly slight by what have been at timea this year, we were 1/10 today and 1/80 against Widnes.'"
Don't worry. Its just those mind games again. 1/2 means the bookies think that if the fixture was played 3 times Hull would win once and Cas twice. Hardly runaway favourites.
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| Quote ="Towns88"What's surprising ? I'm certainly not gunna say we will win but we are "run away" leaders so of course the bookies will make us favourites for the game at the weekend. 1/2 is fairly slight by what have been at timea this year, we were 1/10 today and 1/80 against Widnes.'"
Well, as fans we'd like to think we have some sort of chance. But the independent bookies and media clearly see it otherwise, which it is their job to, I guess. Oh well..
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Don't worry. Its just those mind games again. 1/2 means the bookies think that if the fixture was played 3 times Hull would win once and Cas twice. Hardly runaway favourites.'"
"Mind games"? Let's see how many independent pundits and bookmakers tip us this week.
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| 1/2 is far from conclusive . I reckon we win be roughly 4-6 point favourites, which I think is fair. It's an acknowledgement of what could be a close game that may go either way. Hull will be 6/4 I would guess.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista""Mind games"? Let's see how many independent pundits and bookmakers tip us this week.'"
More will fancy Cas than us. But 1/2 is fairly insignificant in RL betting. According to Flashscores Salford were 2/5 against us. Wigan were 1/2 against Leigh and 4/11 against Wakefield the other week. None of those were easy to call and were all very comfortable wins against the odds.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Don't worry. Its just those mind games again. 1/2 means the bookies think that if the fixture was played 3 times Hull would win once and Cas twice. Hardly runaway favourites.'" ....and here's me thinking it meant put on £2 and win £1.
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| Quote ="Towns88"1/2 is far from conclusive . I reckon we win be roughly 4-6 point favourites, which I think is fair. It's an acknowledgement of what could be a close game that may go either way. Hull will be 6/4 I would guess.'"
I'd love it to be a close game. The hard thing for us will be (obviously) dealing with your unparalleled attacking threats and managing our own enthusiasm/emotions. Our squad will be up for this one, I'm pretty confident of that, but worry is that may translate to penalties/errors which you guys can punish ruthlessly. I hope we get Bentham, need a ref that will let it flow.
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| Quote ="ccs"....and here's me thinking it meant put on £2 and win £1.'"
Your point being?
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Your point being?'" It's nothing to do with winning 2 and losing 1, it's the bookies way of maximising their profits.
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| Quote ="ccs"It's nothing to do with winning 2 and losing 1, it's the bookies way of maximising their profits.'"
They always give themselves a margin obviously. You will never see one team on 1/2 and the other 2/1 because that would take away their edge. But in real terms thats what the prices signify. I've just looked and we are 17/10. The bigger the price the more the bookie wants you to bet on it. 17/10 tells you they are favouring Cas but arent too sure, because its not a price that is going to tempt too many into a punt.
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| [*[*[* Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'd love it to be a close game. The hard thing for us will be (obviously) dealing with your unparalleled attacking threats and managing our own enthusiasm/emotions. Our squad will be up for this one, I'm pretty confident of that, but worry is that may translate to penalties/errors which you guys can punish ruthlessly. I hope we get Bentham, need a ref that will let it flow.'"
If we don't match your enthusiasm then we haven't got a prayer. It was the 1 game I wanted to avoid. Cup holders away from home last 8. It will be close either way. There's no way we are rocking up to the kc and blowing you away and on the flip side I'm hoping we learnt a lot from being 18 0 down after 15 mins at your place.
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| Quote ="Towns88"[*[*[*If we don't match your enthusiasm then we haven't got a prayer. It was the 1 game I wanted to avoid. Cup holders away from home last 8. It will be close either way. There's no way we are rocking up to the kc and blowing you away and on the flip side I'm hoping we learnt a lot from being 18 0 down after 15 mins at your place.'"
Think the winner has a great chance of going all the way.
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| Many many Cas fans are apprehensive about this game and rightly so. We cannot afford to give you a start like last time. We'd be committing suicide.
However you'd think that whoever wins this lifts the cup
Hopefully its a sunny day and a great crowd with the Kcom rocking
All the best next week FC but I hope we pip you in a classic
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| In a way shame we have to meet at this stage. cas v hull at Wembley would have being an epic final, not just in the rugbby sense but also because many Hull fans have a soft spot for Cas (dunno if that is mutual) and from my experience got on well with cas fans, and certainly don't have the arrogance of some teams supporters.
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| Quote ="freddyfox73"Many many Cas fans are apprehensive about this game and rightly so. We cannot afford to give you a start like last time. We'd be committing suicide.
However you'd think that whoever wins this lifts the cup
Hopefully its a sunny day and a great crowd with the Kcom rocking
All the best next week FC but I hope we pip you in a classic'"
I think Cas have to be favourites given how you have played. Personally I think its too close to call. If we cant cut down the space and time for their playmakers they will kill us on the edges. At the same time if they cant match us physically and stop the quick play the balls we will overrun them. Cas are the more consistent but I dont know who wins if both sides are at their best. It will come down to a handful of key moments and who executes them the best.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I think Cas have to be favourites given how you have played. Personally I think its too close to call. If we cant cut down the space and time for their playmakers they will kill us on the edges. At the same time if they cant match us physically and stop the quick play the balls we will overrun them. Cas are the more consistent but I dont know who wins if both sides are at their best. It will come down to a handful of key moments and who executes them the best.'"
Still need to improve our discipline as despite the easy win, think we easily lost the penalty count, our defence stood up to the pressure though, we can't give Cas that many chances.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Still need to improve our discipline as despite the easy win, think we easily lost the penalty count, our defence stood up to the pressure though, we can't give Cas that many chances.'"
That game isnt a great example really. Alot of those penalties on our own line seemed deliberate to allow us to keep our line in tact. Holding down first tackle after a kick had been blocked and the tackle count restarted for example. Cynical, but smart play. Conceding a penalty isnt always a bad thing.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"That game isnt a great example really. Alot of those penalties on our own line seemed deliberate to allow us to keep our line in tact. Holding down first tackle after a kick had been blocked and the tackle count restarted for example. Cynical, but smart play. Conceding a penalty isnt always a bad thing.'"
A couple were this type of pens, but we still gave away a few last in the tackle, couple of dumb ones like taking the player off the ball
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Need to stop eden after his 5 tries today making 5 hat tricks in the last six games. I'm pretty sure I'd score 30 tries a year on the wing at cas'"
Hubby interviewed Lynchy after yesterday's game and suggested that even he could score down that wing! It proves that the big threat isn't just who's on the wing but who's servicing that wing which when you consider it's Gale, you can see why anyone on that wing is going to score for fun.
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| Quote ="Karen"Hubby interviewed Lynchy after yesterday's game and suggested that even he could score down that wing! It proves that the big threat isn't just who's on the wing but who's servicing that wing which when you consider it's Gale, you can see why anyone on that wing is going to score for fun.'"
Hope Wattsy is working on his game plan right now
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Hope Wattsy is working on his game plan right now
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You jest, but I had to walk away from a Cas fan in the supporter's bar yesterday as he basically said that our game plan all along that day was to take Gale out at whatever cost. I was so angry it's a shame I wasn't wearing the Magic shirt!!
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| Wouldnt worry about what the bookies have this priced up as. They had wigan as 8 point faves v Leigh and Catalans as faves v hudds!!
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| Quote ="Karen"You jest, but I had to walk away from a Cas fan in the supporter's bar yesterday as he basically said that our game plan all along that day was to take Gale out at whatever cost. I was so angry it's a shame I wasn't wearing the Magic shirt!!
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Unbelievable isn't it! We must have also shared that tactic with McShane for him to run in and knee Gale in the head too!
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| Quote ="Karen"Hubby interviewed Lynchy after yesterday's game and suggested that even he could score down that wing! It proves that the big threat isn't just who's on the wing but who's servicing that wing which when you consider it's Gale, you can see why anyone on that wing is going to score for fun.'"
I agree with that.
Its also no coincidence that a class centre like Shenton provides Eden with mostly walk in tries.
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