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| i mean that should be the end of the regular season so the winners should get a trophy as they have got the most points ie football
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| Quote ="sheddy-2001"i mean that should be the end of the regular season so the winners should get a trophy as they have got the most points ie football'"
Be a crap season with just 22 games though wouldn't it.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I am loving the accusations of stupidity when some cannot recognise that 7 remaining games out of a 30 games season is less than a quarter rather then a third
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Ah, you see the quickness of mind of a bean counter can't quite grasp the reality that there will only be 8 teams challenging for the LLS, of which we will be one. By the end of this round of games each will have played 14 games against the other 7, with 7 left and I'm pretty sure when I went to school that 7 was 1/3 of 21 but maybe you can enlighten me otherwise. Please don't come back with bleats about the also rans like leeds and rovers as, quite frankly, they don;t count
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| Quote ="spegs"Clearly some people are more stupid than others. I mean who comes to the conclusion that the final 7 games of a 30 game season constitutes 1/3 of the total games played.'"
Clearly you're just stupid, but then we all knew that. D minus - must try harder
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Ah, you see the quickness of mind of a bean counter can't quite grasp the reality that there will only be 8 teams challenging for the LLS, of which we will be one. By the end of this round of games each will have played 14 games against the other 7, with 7 left and I'm pretty sure when I went to school that 7 was 1/3 of 21 but maybe you can enlighten me otherwise. Please don't come back with bleats about the also rans like leeds and rovers as, quite frankly, they don;t count
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Absolute cack and well you know it.
At not point does the final league table only take into account 21 games.
You got rumbled for poor maths,
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Absolute cack and well you know it.
At not point does the final league table only take into account 21 games.
You got rumbled for poor maths,
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Knew you'd have no answer. Go make yourself useful and count some beans
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Knew you'd have no answer. Go make yourself useful and count some beans'"
You are right in one thing, I have no answer as to why you think 9 games of the regular season suddenly become obsolete either after round 23 or round 30.
And if that's really all you had as a reply, I suggest you try much hardly post being rumbled.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"You are right in one thing, I have no answer as to why you think 9 games of the regular season suddenly become obsolete either after round 23 or round 30.
And if that's really all you had as a reply, I suggest you try much hardly post being rumbled.'"
Rumbled? Are you suggesting it's a co-incidence that it just happened to be exactly 1/3 of those games left? There's more chance of rovers winning the middle 8's than that being a co-incidence.
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| Anyone know if the LLS is handed out after this weekend's games or after the super 8s? Cheers.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Anyone know if the LLS is handed out agreed this weekend's games or after the super 8s? Cheers.'"
It was handed out the week we lost top spot to wigan
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Anyone know if the LLS is handed out after this weekend's games or after the super 8s? Cheers.'"
Think we win the LLS if we beat Salford on Friday.
Open top bus journey and City Hall balcony appearance on Sunday if all goes well.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Think we win the LLS if we beat Salford on Friday.
Open top bus journey and City Hall balcony appearance on Sunday if all goes well.'"
Only if we win, if we don't Koukash keeps it and mounts it on his mantlepiece next the grinning rictus racehorse skull of Rangi Chase
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Rumbled? Are you suggesting it's a co-incidence that it just happened to be exactly 1/3 of those games left? There's more chance of rovers winning the middle 8's than that being a co-incidence.'"
Nothing to do with coincidence. The regular season is 30 games long. Trying to repeatley convince yourself it's not is just making you out to look daft.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Nothing to do with coincidence. The regular season is 30 games long. Trying to repeatley convince yourself it's not is just making you out to look daft.'"
Really? the person who is questioning what I put despite me qualifying it and proving I was 100% right based on my rationale is the one looking daft and will look dafter still when he replies to this
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Really? the person who is questioning what I put despite me qualifying it and proving I was 100% right based on my rationale is the one looking daft and :2jv61p0jwill look dafter still when he replies to this[/
You have already taken that award.
By my rationale, you are irrational in thinking there are only 21 games. Its not just me that thinks that. Anyone with a modicum of sense knows the regular season has 30 games and 7 is most definitely not a third of that.
Posting "will look dafter still when he replies to this" in an attempt to win an already lost argument is the act of a childish pedant.
You appear to manipulate number as well as any accountant I know
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| With regard to how much kudos it gets you the LL trophy itself is virtually meaningless outside your own fanbase, even then to many it has no true value in the sense of silverware. Yes it's a physical award but with the play-offs still to go to reach the true finale it's always being a bit limp.
Nobody looks back (nor indeed is it registered in the clubs history) stating that Hull FC were the LLs in 1922/23 when Hull KR that won that seasons play-off, and vice versa in 20/21 when Hull won the play-offs and Rovers were the league leaders.
I personally don't think the trophy/award in itself makes any difference at all except for the money and theoretically better fixtures which have far more intrinsic value and meaning with regards the end goal. You could say that being at the top instills more confidence but then as seen, any team at any time can lose, top of the league/long winning streak or not.
IF we do finish top, I just hope we don't do a Huddersfield!
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| League leaders shield should go to whoever is top after everyone as played each other twice. But like many have said, doesn't really mean a great deal anyway
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| finishing top proves you are the best team,winning the grand final does not.leeds won grand final finishing 5th,what did that prove.nothing apart from you can win a few games at end of season.its obviously makes money and sky like it,but to me its a micky mouse end of season non event.
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| Quote ="ditchley16"finishing top proves you are the best team,winning the grand final does not.leeds won grand final finishing 5th,what did that prove.nothing apart from you can win a few games at end of season.its obviously makes money and sky like it,but to me its a micky mouse end of season non event.'"
RL has traditionally decided it's champions through a play-off event, so whether you agree with the system or not it's hardly 'mickey mouse'. Neither is it an invention of Sky.
Deciding the champions by whoever finishes top was a relatively short-lived system when compared to play-offs.
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| Has anyone heard the rumour that the challenge cup will now be awarded after the 1/4 finals?
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| Quote ="threepennystander"What's stupid is the fact it isn't handed out after 23 rounds were you have played every team twice plus magic. The play-offs used to be a knock out competition which if you never qualified meant your season was over. Other teams have won the shield after 23 rounds but now you must play the top 7 teams again. Diminishes the shield even more ( if thats possible ) Just my opinion of corse'"
No One has won the league leaders shield playing less than 27 games
and in other seasons we've had some form of concocted extra fixtures.
when the league had 12 teams it meant you only had 22 games if you played everyone once. So we got those random extra 6 and then later 5 games..........
when we had 14 teams we just got the one extra magic weekend game......
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| Pains me to say it but it is deserved, best team of 2016 finished top.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Has anyone heard the rumour that the challenge cup will now be awarded after the 1/4 finals?'"
Don't the quarter finalists have to play off in a new fangled mini league called semis and final though?
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