1. When did we nearly get relegated? I must have missed that one.
2. Show me the link to the "scientific study" with regards to home advantage. If playing at home has no advantage then why of the 10 sporting divisions that I have just referenced do 80% of all teams have a better home record? You are quoting rhetoric with no basis on fact.

Personally I would not class you as a stay away fan if there are outside factors involved as to why you cannot go. Its more those who choose to stay away I am thinking of.

for several years I was, lets say, geographically challenged and it was impossible for me to attend. It did not stop me supporting the club though.

I sort of get those who quote the last two years results / performances. That said, when Radford was appointed, was it not the case that Pearson stated that the club had been poorly managed (no youth set up) and that those he trusted (McRae / Gentle) had given out very generous contracts and there would be a period of time to sort this out. Not such a case of a transitional period, but a clearing of drift wood?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but those who have said in the past "I won't go again until Radford is out" would surely be cutting their noses off to spite their faces?

Of the games we have lost, Cas were the better side on the night, Wigan took the points off a brain fart of an off load, Widnes wiped the flour with us. We then do what we needed to do against Wakey, did rovers in the best comeback win I have seen, Wire were 100%, St's away is never a gimme.

I would urge those who are undecided to back the team and the club this Friday against Hudds.

Here's a dictionary definition of fickle:

"changeable, inconsistent; inconstant in one's affections"

What's pompous and lazy about defining supporters who only attend when the team is winning as the above ? It's exactly the right definition. Nobody is saying it's wrong to be changeable or inconsistent with support - but there's no denying that there are several thousand people who fall into this category. It's the same at most clubs and always has been and will be. People who fall into that category shouldn't be too sensitive about being labelled as fickle. In the same way diehards shouldn't worry about being labelled in that way. It's diehards who keep clubs afloat when they are not doing well. That's undeniable.

Yet the diehards are often classed as the happy clappers by a few on here.

I also think the same could be applied to the display against rovers,they were actually very good for that first hour and they have followed it up with 2 good performances,how many teams could pull that game out of the fire.

1. If you want to ignore what happened in 2014 that's up to you. 1 point in front of Wakey and a Bradford side in administration plus 6 points off with little to play for toward the end having to offload players left right and centre but yeah we were outstanding!!

2. Don't be so lazy and find the study yourself, it isn't hard to find. It was done on the US.
Basic understanding of human behaviour tbh.

1. Your statement referenced relegation.....at what point did we come close?
2. You made a statement that there is no benefit to home advantage. Now you are referencing basic understanding of human behaviour? Make your mind up. There clearly is an advantage to playing at home....the facts and statistics make this easy for those who are not trying to appear intellectual to see.

Who said we were outstanding? Are you totally incapable of having an adult conversation?

We were twelve points clear of Bradford. Even without their points deduction we'd have been six points clear of them.

By your rationale we were also nearly 7th.

Everyone knew London and Bradford were for the drop that year. There was never a period were anyone thought we were going to drop, spare a few of the doom and gloom brigade.

Ffs can we give the let's all have a go at knockers thread a miss for a change.
And realistically relegation was a possibility that year and had London and Bradford not been in their critical situations,so who knows what would have happened, thankfully we survived.

I thought this might have been a positive thread for a change.

All we need to do is enjoy our little bubble whilst it lasts and if and when it does pop it's not a dire performance that has defined our recent history.
With positive performances irrespective of being on the right side of the scoreline all the time this should bring the feel good factor and fans back that have been missing for too long now.

The stay away fans will come back in dribs & drabs, the team is worthy of more fans at the minute, they are playing how the glory supporters want them to, so no reason not to have a few more through the turnstiles.

Well the only way they'll get me there regularly is if they move the KC about 300 miles north, but I'll be there whenever I can.

Good effort, keep fingers crossed they moved Wimbledon ha.

That's the problem the season does not last a minute though does it?
And after years of dross some fans are harder to win back.

We must all be glory supporters by your reckoning then, including yourself, as I'm very happy at the way they've played over the last 3 games so let's hope it's not short lived. Too many false dawns for some too.

I think a glory supporter only turns up for finals personally and if that is the case then it's up to the coach and players to ensure we compete, they enjoy what they see win or lose but are entertained enough to want more.
That's how we will increase our fan base.
Fickle maybe but that's sport in general and not generic to Hull.

if they don't come back now when will there? of course some will make excuses not to whatever happens and then when we have a hiccup be all over here like a rash,

The atmosphere against wire was amazing and seeing the scenes at saints last night blimy get your tickets now!!! Coyh

The fact is there isn't some large cohort of people acting as a hive mind of "stay away supporters" who'll reappear. Past core fan base (passholders) you get plenty who'll say "they're doing alright at the minute, shall we go?" when they see a game advertised. These are the people AP needs to target with ticket offers.

I went to my first FC game on a ticket offer, spent a couple of years going to the odd game, and then have been a passholder for a good few years now. Newcomers need to be encouraged to give it a chance, the glass half empty stay away supporters won't be talked into anything and we probably need to do more than string a few wins together to bring them back.

It's simply too expensive for a lot of people, it isn't worth £20+ for 80 minutes with no decent catering on offer either.

Concert tickets for a popular act are £40-£50

Theatre tickets for a show are £50+

Premier League football £40+

Advance purchase for non members at the KC for a Hull FC game are £21. If you consider that too much for top flight sport, then you are living in the wrong era.

If you go to a sporting event, which you consider already over priced, with the anticipation of reasonably priced and good food then you are also living in the wrong country. Name one stadium in the UK where you would go for good food at a reasonable price?

Thats a little like saying, if other teams had not been better then us, we would have won the league.

It's not though is it?

Had we been 2nd or 3rd that season in a close finish I'll give you that but we weren't.

You've also taken it out of context to suit as it was a comment towards another poster in conversation.

I did also had 'possibilty' which is true. And as stated if London had been able to recruit and not field a reserve team and Bradford likewise without a points reduction who knows what would have happened as without any constraints we were marginally better. All ifs and buts now.
So don't really see your issue.

You basically said that we would have been relegated had there not been teams much worse than us, so yes - it's exactly the same.

I never understand why people want to make this argument. It's pure nonsense for any sport structured into leagues.

BINGO

Again for the slow amongst you I said POSSIBILITY how is that the same as saying 'we would' it simply isn't but that would not suit you're 'always right' attitude now would it?
You and MMJ are 2 peas in a pod.
Read it again if you're struggling to comprehend basic English.
I await your condescending smug reply as always, people like you can never help yourselves.

may get another 500 hundred on the gate, i think the fact its huddersfield wont inspire the missing fans to get of their backside and come back just yet