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| Quote ="hull2524"ffs there grown men, you ever played rugby? its called banter'"
Bono sounds increasingly like a primary school teacher.
Logan will benefit from being dropped if be buckles down and works in the parts of his game that require it. Most reasonable fans can see clearly that he struggles to defend one on one. If doesn't mean he's written off if he puts the work in on his game. Radford gave him the previously coveted no 4 shirt ffs.
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| Oh its the three stooges
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| my my whats up with you, we win so it stopped you going into meltdown?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Oh its the three stooges'"
They are right.
It was a bloody joke, lighten up. I bet the players including Logan thought it was hilarious.
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| logan looked a better player on the left edge in my opinion, if he's fit and yeamo is out he should he get another shot on that side of the field?
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| 1 interception try to his name in a 50 point romp this season,dread to think what some of our support would be posting on here if a certain experienced centre of ours was producing the same strike rate.
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| I heard he got himself a lass and completely lost focus, which can happen at his age.
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| hasnt powell helped him with his defence................................
cas points for 467 aginst 508
pity he forgot about the rest of the squad lol
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| Radders bullied him, didn't he?
On a serious note, we're not missing anything IMO. From what I've seen of him this year, he's not got that guile and attacking flair that we saw from him when he was here. He's bigger, but not sure he's much better in defence.
I wouldn't swap him for either of our current centres, or Griffin.
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| I was one who thought we should have kept crooks but he looks rubbish currently
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| I don't know if he would be playing regular rugby if shenton wasn't out.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I don't know if he would be playing regular rugby if shenton wasn't out.'"
I do, he wouldn't.Inferior to both Shenton and Webster.
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| Well, I'm vindicated. I said for ages he was overrated and only his partnership with Lineham helped him out. Lineham broke his leg and Crooks just went downhill. Radford dropped him and he wandered off to Oz thinking he was the best thing at the club.
Average at best. Another Kris Welham.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Well, I'm vindicated. I said for ages he was overrated and only his partnership with Lineham helped him out. Lineham broke his leg and Crooks just went downhill. Radford dropped him and he wandered off to Oz thinking he was the best thing at the club.
Average at best. Another Kris Welham.'"
An insult to Kris Welham. He has worked on his defensive side, but going forward he's just lost any quality he once had. Poses no threat.
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| He has had some poor games lately.
In his defence, we have been missing our right-sided half back more or less all year, meaning almost everything goes through Gale down the left. If Ben Roberts had been playing all year, Crooks may well have been more involved. Even the tries we score down his side come from cross-field kicks and the link between McMeekan and Dorn.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Well, I'm vindicated. I said for ages he was overrated and only his partnership with Lineham helped him out. Lineham broke his leg and Crooks just went downhill. Radford dropped him and he wandered off to Oz thinking he was the best thing at the club.
Average at best. Another Kris Welham.'"
And yet in that 2014 season our win ratio was greater with Crooks playing (& indeed as it was with Miller playing) than we did without. A young man being destroyed by an out of his depth coach is not so easy to get over, especially when you have performed extremely well as a rookie. but I'm sure you don't give a fig about that even if it was your own son eh?
You state that he 'wandered off to Oz thinking he was all that", you know this for a fact then? You have ALL the facts regarding what happened and why he went there, the club said something else as it happens but please enlighten us as to your personal knowledge.
So all those supporters saying how fantastic he had done and everyone else outside the club must have being wrong, including those picking the SL dream team.
Whatever he is doing now has being impacted by what happened, we have no idea what might have being for Crooks but your and others lambasting of him is utterly pathetic, it's oh so easy to slag players off once they have left the club either by choice or otherwise.
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| This season we have seen how average Miller, Arundel and Crooks really are. As for Crooks being "destroyed by an out of his depth coach", are you for real? He was dropped to reserve because he was below par a LONG way below par. He was scoring tries but so what, Dixon Scores tries for fun but is a poor defender, cannot keep his hands on a ball and positionally is a nightmare. Crooks was exactly the same and still is. We sold Lineham without really bothering to try and keep him because his defence was terrible too. A showboater who only likes to score spectacular tries without doing the hard work. In both of the games he has played in against us, he's been shown up.
The irony of someone like you posting this after his pathetic meltdown over Radford isn't lost on me. Radford has improved beyond measure, Crooks hasn't.
Get over yourself - failing that, start a petition.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"And yet in that 2014 season our win ratio was greater with Crooks playing (& indeed as it was with Miller playing) than we did without. A young man being destroyed by an out of his depth coach is not so easy to get over, especially when you have performed extremely well as a rookie. but I'm sure you don't give a fig about that even if it was your own son eh?
You state that he 'wandered off to Oz thinking he was all that", you know this for a fact then? You have ALL the facts regarding what happened and why he went there, the club said something else as it happens but please enlighten us as to your personal knowledge.
So all those supporters saying how fantastic he had done and everyone else outside the club must have being wrong, including those picking the SL dream team.
Whatever he is doing now has being impacted by what happened, we have no idea what might have being for Crooks but your and others lambasting of him is utterly pathetic, it's oh so easy to slag players off once they have left the club either by choice or otherwise.'"
You've become a parody of yourself. Crooks was not destroyed by Radford, that is complete rubbish. He was found out, pure and simple.
As for win ratios in 2014: Crooks played in thirteen games - we won five and lost eight (38%). In the fifteen games he didn't play we won five, drew two and lost eight (40%).
Miller played in ten, we won four and lost six (40%), he missed eighteen of which we won six, drew two and lost ten (38%). It should be pointed out though that of then ten games he played only two were against teams that finished in the top eight that year. Losses included Rovers twice, Saford and Wakefield.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"And yet in that 2014 season our win ratio was greater with Crooks playing (& indeed as it was with Miller playing) than we did without. A young man being destroyed by an out of his depth coach is not so easy to get over, especially when you have performed extremely well as a rookie. but I'm sure you don't give a fig about that even if it was your own son eh?
You state that he 'wandered off to Oz thinking he was all that", you know this for a fact then? You have ALL the facts regarding what happened and why he went there, the club said something else as it happens but please enlighten us as to your personal knowledge.
So all those supporters saying how fantastic he had done and everyone else outside the club must have being wrong, including those picking the SL dream team.
Whatever he is doing now has being impacted by what happened, we have no idea what might have being for Crooks but your and others lambasting of him is utterly pathetic, it's oh so easy to slag players off once they have left the club either by choice or otherwise.'"
The irony of you stating "you know this for fact" after already stating "A young man being destroyed by an out of depth coach".
Of course, this is you opinion, something which has been repeatedly pointed out on here. I suppose you are trying to use the "if you say an untruth often enough, then people will start to believe it".
SL dream team? Is that how you judge a player? Kevin Penny made that line up after just 12 first team games
Ben Crooks was overhyped by a small number of fans which, given your own theory, will have had an impact on him I can only imagine this heaped pressure on him (perhaps the reason for his shocker at Wembley ) or it massaged his ego resulting in the much publicise poor attitude the following season.
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| If it wasn't for Radford, Crooks would have been the next Mal Meninga.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"And yet in that 2014 season our win ratio was greater with Crooks playing (& indeed as it was with Miller playing) than we did without. A young man being destroyed by an out of his depth coach is not so easy to get over, especially when you have performed extremely well as a rookie. but I'm sure you don't give a fig about that even if it was your own son eh?
You state that he 'wandered off to Oz thinking he was all that", you know this for a fact then? You have ALL the facts regarding what happened and why he went there, the club said something else as it happens but please enlighten us as to your personal knowledge.
So all those supporters saying how fantastic he had done and everyone else outside the club must have being wrong, including those picking the SL dream team.
Whatever he is doing now has being impacted by what happened, we have no idea what might have being for Crooks but your and others lambasting of him is utterly pathetic, it's oh so easy to slag players off once they have left the club either by choice or otherwise.'"
Just man up and admit you're wrong. You're making yourself look an even bigger idiot than usual, and that's going some!!
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"If it wasn't for Radford, Crooks would have been the next Mal Meninga.
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Just look at the negative impact dropping Shaul to the reserves has had. Absolutely RUINED his career. Radford's out of his depth!!
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"And yet in that 2014 season our win ratio was greater with Crooks playing (& indeed as it was with Miller playing) than we did without. A young man being destroyed by an out of his depth coach is not so easy to get over, especially when you have performed extremely well as a rookie. but I'm sure you don't give a fig about that even if it was your own son eh?
You state that he 'wandered off to Oz thinking he was all that", you know this for a fact then? You have ALL the facts regarding what happened and why he went there, the club said something else as it happens but please enlighten us as to your personal knowledge.
So all those supporters saying how fantastic he had done and everyone else outside the club must have being wrong, including those picking the SL dream team.
Whatever he is doing now has being impacted by what happened, we have no idea what might have being for Crooks but your and others lambasting of him is utterly pathetic, it's oh so easy to slag players off once they have left the club either by choice or otherwise.'"
Just when I thought you'd turned the corner
You come out with this rediculous diatribe, your not schizophrenic, your quadrophenic ps not a mod
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"And yet in that 2014 season our win ratio was greater with Crooks playing (& indeed as it was with Miller playing) than we did without. A young man being destroyed by an out of his depth coach is not so easy to get over, especially when you have performed extremely well as a rookie. but I'm sure you don't give a fig about that even if it was your own son eh?
You state that he 'wandered off to Oz thinking he was all that", you know this for a fact then? You have ALL the facts regarding what happened and why he went there, the club said something else as it happens but please enlighten us as to your personal knowledge.
So all those supporters saying how fantastic he had done and everyone else outside the club must have being wrong, including those picking the SL dream team.
Whatever he is doing now has being impacted by what happened, we have no idea what might have being for Crooks but your and others lambasting of him is utterly pathetic, it's oh so easy to slag players off once they have left the club either by choice or otherwise.'"
You're a fine one for statements without actual facts.
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| Bumpy has finally gone over the edge.
Mater, call a doctor.............
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