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| Quote ="jools"Hull really do seem to get hit by a lot of injuries, is it all just bad luck or is some of it down to poor strength and conditioning. I know youve had some different personnel in that area, but every year it seems you complain of injuries. Is there a need to look at this based on the types of injury your players are getting?'"
I'm sure no one at the club has thought of that, drop them a line to suggest it
Joking apart, all clubs get injuries but we're just in a really bad patch. I don't remember it being this bad since 2004
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure huddersfield will win this one at a canter but I reckon it would be more even if they lost their:
first choice full back, wingers and centres, their stand off, 2 of their starting back rowers, both of their bench props plus their back up and a couple of cover players
It really is a disastrous injury list so I'll be going along with no expectations but hopefully we'll put a shift in'"
With all due respect Sa & Yeaman have been gash, they aren't and shouldn't be considered 'first choice' as they simply haven't been good enough to be described as such. Also isn't Shaul first choice FB, he's played in the FB roll more than Rankin and aside from his injury which curtailed his mid season appearances & Radford using his position to punish him for his 'outburst' he very much is our first choice FB.
We've lost one starting backrower, that's Ellis, we've got both our starting props plus our first choice bench prop in Feka (not that Radford has used him much this season!), you could argue given the performance against Wigan (lauded as one of our best this season) that barring a couple of players that was one of our better teams that we've put out.
If the scoreline is anything similar to our defeat at their place (during our winning run I might add) I'd say that the team we've put out is better than the so-called 'first choice' players.
Making excuses for losses due to injuries/playing your least experienced 1st team squad members is a non starter for me.
Anderson's thinking will be all out, if Leeds lose against Cas they have a chance of 1st or 2nd as they've got leeds in a 4 pointer last match, I don't see him pulling players out to save from injury however I don't expect there to be a big points differential if our lads can perform like they did last weekend and cut down the mistakes.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I'm sure it's a better feeling than being an anti-fan. Go be a cancer at some other team please.'"
A cancer, WTF are you talking about, because I can have an objective viewpoint on how we perform you think i can't support and be a fan of the club? Whatever, no-one put you in charge of jack (thank feck) and if you think the potential of us only gaining one win from the S8s is excusable in any way then you're as dumb as the rest of the Radford loving head in the sand types.
One great performance last week and you think everything is rosy, my point is absolutely clear, Radford is safe no matter how we perform these next two games, he has an excuse that we only have X first choice players playing so even if Hudds and Catalans batter us (which might not happen) it won't effect his position. You can't even see how that directly relates to what happened to our previous more successful coach whom also had terrible injury crisis and a supposed load of crap/average players.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"hudds are a team where the sum of the parts are better than the individuals in there, which is the opposite to where we've been for some time now. They have some good players but no real superstars - brough is good and his kicking game is massive for them and If he plays well they play well, but when you go through their side there aren't that many players who you would be desperate for us to sign if they were available. anderson has them at the top of their game much of the time which is where we need to be'"
that sums it up pretty well for me, and the reason players like McGillvary dont get noticed, until now that is.we are a team that tend to go under the radar and usually only get talked about at this stage of the season because we are expected to "choke" again, but i am more than happy with that.
we have good players but not exceptional players*, players like Brough,Crabtree, Ferres etc will always be the standout names but we have players like Murphy,Lawrence,Ta'ai,Wardle,Ellis who are all vital parts of our team but rarely get mentioned, mainly because of their consistency.
*as in how the media get in fits of hysterics over them.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure huddersfield will win this one at a canter but I reckon it would be more even if they lost their:
first choice full back, wingers and centres, their stand off, 2 of their starting back rowers, both of their bench props plus their back up and a couple of cover players
It really is a disastrous injury list so I'll be going along with no expectations but hopefully we'll put a shift in'"
if they play with as much enthusiasm and belief as they did last friday i doubt it will be anything near a canter.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure no one at the club has thought of that, drop them a line to suggest it
Joking apart, all clubs get injuries but we're just in a really bad patch. I don't remember it being this bad since 2004'"
short memory Jake
Peter Gentle had to contend with 12 or 14 injuries at one stage
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| Quote ="bonaire"short memory Jake
Peter Gentle had to contend with 12 or 14 injuries at one stage'"
Did he? I can't remember it being that bad but I do remember radford coming out of retirement so it was obviously not good
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"With all due respect Sa & Yeaman have been gash, they aren't and shouldn't be considered 'first choice' as they simply haven't been good enough to be described as such. Also isn't Shaul first choice FB, he's played in the FB roll more than Rankin and aside from his injury which curtailed his mid season appearances & Radford using his position to punish him for his 'outburst' he very much is our first choice FB.'"
I agree about yeaman and sa but the fact is if they were fit they'd be playing hence they are our first choice centres. Plus their squad numbers kind of give it away or are you suggesting rankin and logan are now our best options?
As for shaul, what are you talking about? He's our first choice full back and he's injured - gone for the season according to the wail
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"We've lost one starting backrower, that's Ellis, '"
Unless the 13 isn;t now in the back row I think you'll find we've lost 2 of the starting 3, plus 2 of our back up options in whiting and thompson
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"we've got both our starting props plus our first choice bench prop in Feka (not that Radford has used him much this season!), you could argue given the performance against Wigan (lauded as one of our best this season) that barring a couple of players that was one of our better teams that we've put out.'"
feka really isn't up to it IMO. He's not got the impact he had nor the engine to do big minutes plus he gets spotted in defence. green and bowden have both been picked ahead of him this season so I stand by my view that feka is 5th choice
Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If the scoreline is anything similar to our defeat at their place (during our winning run I might add) I'd say that the team we've put out is better than the so-called 'first choice' players.
Making excuses for losses due to injuries/playing your least experienced 1st team squad members is a non starter for me.
Anderson's thinking will be all out, if Leeds lose against Cas they have a chance of 1st or 2nd as they've got leeds in a 4 pointer last match, I don't see him pulling players out to save from injury however I don't expect there to be a big points differential if our lads can perform like they did last weekend and cut down the mistakes.'"
Are you really suggesting that a team isn't weakened when it loses it's best players? Do you really think a weakened side should be as good as a full strength one? You should get in touch with pearson and tell him he's wasting a million quid or so a year in that case.
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| Quote ="meast"if they play with as much enthusiasm and belief as they did last friday i doubt it will be anything near a canter.'"
If we were playing you at your place we'd be OK but at the KC we're absolute gash
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Did he? I can't remember it being that bad but I do remember radford coming out of retirement so it was obviously not good'"
It was good against KR
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| Just been told only 15 players trained yesterday, with Shaul and Lineham out, really going to struggle to get a team out, are any players due back, Yeaman, Sa, Tomo, Whiting or Micheals.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Just been told only 15 players trained yesterday, with Shaul and Lineham out, really going to struggle to get a team out, are any players due back, Yeaman, Sa, Tomo, Whiting or Micheals.'"
Says Lineham will play in the Hull Daily Mail. Shaul rested for the season now. No players back
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Says Lineham will play in the Hull Daily Mail. Shaul rested for the season now. No players back'"
Rankin
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| Quote ="Dave K."Rankin
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| I think in general this season our injuries have been down to a all time low. its just in recent weeks it has hit home. atleast its not come at a time when we had something to play for (apart from pride) the injuries don't concern me at this time in the season. what does worry me is that IF we take a beating Friday, it knocks the kids confidence for the future.
its great that these kids are getting S.L experience, but getting thumped isn't the type of experience you want the to have. also, when at home, the fans seem to get on the players backs a lot more and a lot quicker.
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| HULL FC: Abdull, Bowden, Downs, Fash, Hadley, Houghton, Logan, Matongo, Minichiello, Naughton, Paea, Palea’aesina, Pryce, Rankin, Sneyd, Thompson, Turgut, Watts, Yeaman
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| Quote ="Hutchie"HULL FC: Abdull, Bowden, Downs, Fash, Hadley, Houghton, Logan, Matongo, Minichiello, Naughton, Paea, Palea’aesina, Pryce, Rankin, Sneyd, Thompson, Turgut, Watts, Yeaman'"
I hoped we had seen the last of Yeaman at centre but unfortuneately looks like he will be back on Friday as Radford is likely to move Rankin to full back
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| Wing is the problem, then centre, then do you have 3 props on bench or use Turget who can cover centre?
Rankin, naughton, Yeaman, Thompson, Logan, Pryce, Sneyd, Paea, Houghton, Watts, Mini, Hadley , Abdull
Subs, Masi, Feka, Downs, Bowden
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| I'd play Thompson at centre as we've got lots of cover in the forwards. Used to play there for Cas.
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| I like Turgut - I would have him in the 17
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| Quote ="bonaire"I hoped we had seen the last of Yeaman at centre but unfortuneately looks like he will be back on Friday as Radford is likely to move Rankin to full back'"
Didn't take long.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"icon_biggrin.gif
Didn't take long.'"
But it has taken a young rookie centre with a bit of pace and a good step to show exactly how poor Yeaman has been but we still have people on here defending him because he has been a good servant to the club and is local boy.
If he was not from Hull he would never have been retained
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| Quote ="bonaire"But it has taken a young rookie centre with a bit of pace and a good step to show exactly how poor Yeaman has been but we still have people on here defending him because he has been a good servant to the club and is local boy.
If he was not from Hull he would never have been retained'"
Yep, we get it, you're a broken record. Nobody on here has said they'd prefer Yeaman over Logan or said they're happy with Yeaman's performances.
By the same measure you say that Yeaman has only been retained because he's local, being local for some reason opens up a player to an unwarranted amount of stick. Yeaman, Horne, Lee, Hall etc. We've also recently retained a 5th choice prop, who's done the square root of naff all on the pitch for 2/3 seasons, who can't muster more than 20 minutes a game, in a position we are well stocked in, yet nobody bats an eyelid.
We have 4 fit backs to cover 1-5 this weekend. He's playing, get over it.
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| Yeaman gets the same amount of stick as others that don't perform well, the problem is that he hasn't performed to the requisite standard for quite some time but the coach up until fairly recently was still picking him ahead of others. On top of that players whom aren't at that level required get let go, there's been a few that have the last 2 seasons and yet Yeaman is the only one being retained which is baffling.
Due to that fans & forummers are wanting to know why that is, what legitimate reasons are we keeping a player well past his best and has been usurped by a kid that even last year proved he offered more and we have a superior centre signed in the same mould.
You have a broken record in defending the coach and his baffling decisions and overall unacceptable performance, ones that have left us yet again well off the pace from the play-offs.
What is your excuse for the broken record you keep banging on about??
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| Our task just got harder after tonights result.Huddersfield play Leeds at home is their last game and must be fancying their chances of finishing in the Top 2.
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