We have just no idea in managing a game,need a proper leader on the field.Plenty of effort but just no brains,on the field and off it.

Without Ellis we have no leader, which is a big concern.

Soft tries conceded particularly the first 3 from kicks and some of the right edge tackling was embarrassing.

Said for a long time not that d about linehams departure..

Or sa

At the end of the day, we had no chance in this Super 8s competition either way. Sadly our biggest achievement of the year is managing to get in the 8 in the first place and not be in the qualifiers.

Lineham on his day is a point machine and a great player. Lets no pretend differently because we are sour about him leaving for another club.

Both were very, very poor. Lineham might have caught Carney in that chase but why the hell didn't he challenge for the kick in the first place instead of watching Carney catch it.

Let's not pretend he was anything other than garbage tonight.

Where was Shaul tonight.

We've obviously no chance of getting anywhere near the top 4 so lets do without those who won't be here next year (Mickey apart) and lets see how some of our youngsters fare. As has been said earlier we had no right hand defence at all and Shenton must have thought it was his birthday, he was given so many gifts.

Sa was gash.

Overall like most of the rest of this season, lots of effort, a few bits of skill, some sloppy defending, too many cheap penalties, and a defeat.

On we go....

And a point machine for the opposition also,not sour at all...good at some things awful at at others...

I didn't want to see lineham go, but tonight he was gash, imo play naughton and maybe chance for shaul , thought apart from michaels our three quarters where shocking

Great going forward, but we've all seen and particularly this season, how poor his defence is.

As for the breakaway by Carney, surely it was Sa who should have gone for the ball. But no he just watched and made no effort to chase back. Ultimately that play summed up how poor the right hand side were.
Despite how soft Shenton's tries were, i wish we had him.

can anyone shine any light on why you name Yeaman/a centre on the bench, to spell with Logan, who yet again played well.

Another game and yet the same question: What is the logic with our interchanges?!?

The club's problem is not the coaches though, it's the lack of playing shirts/training tops we've released.
Hopefully we'll address this next season and have a different one for every game.

Is it just me, or did anyone else feel...


That during the second half which sort hung in the balance for a while, that it would be Cas that came out on top? I sat and watched with my son, he's 14 and even he said Cas will go on and win this when both teams were exchanging sets.

Someone mentioned game management earlier and I think it's a good point.

Maybe it's juts paranoia as so used to getting beat, but I just felt FC didn't have the game to come out of that spell and push on and win it.

It's very frustrating.

Logan got a sternum injury and came back on despite that after Yeaman was injured. So no spelling.

Some of the defending on those kicks was pitiful, really poor organisation on not only defending a kick, but our offensive kicks as well. No one seems to have a clue what's happening

Lineham can go now. Holmes effort was an embarrassment to any player over 9yrs old.
noggers n tala next week. Shaul as well. Rankin waspoor as well.

Some diabolical errors tonight. Story of the season. Score a couple, cue on the rack, errors. Sa and Lineham particularly prolific. Meh.

Just got back. Dissapointing to say the least yet not suprised one bit. 22 points gift wrapped from Lineham, sa and rankin. Lineham and sa were shocking but like the poster above said, rankin wasnt great either, from what I saw at the game he cost us 2 tries.

Shaul must be wondering what he has to do to get a game, two games running rankin has been poor

For saints I'd drop rankin for shaul, move whiting to centre for sa and Naughton in for lineham

Ah fair enough, didnt know that. Credit to Logan for playing through.

Radford must have known and hence why Yeaman was actually on the bench.

We all know Adam is short of cash and looking for investors but he has 1 throw of the dice left.

Geoff Toovey...Manly have just beaten Broncos and Bunnies. He's been fired.

I have no idea at all if this has legs but as Toovey was at Manly for 20+ years he may not fancy another NRL club for a season.

He's a GREAT coach and if AP had the cash maybe just maybe he might come. Long shot I suppose.

He would be our Saviour and that's not debatable.

Radford is not fit for purpose and this match shows why for the 20th+ time.
Wigan 2 weeks ago was the straw for me, again ad infinitum

Whiting got run around 2 or 3 times tonight playing second row. Pretty sure his centre days are well behind him. That said, he'd still be an upgrade on Sa judging by tonight's performance.

Well you hull fans was watching a different game to me I thought it was a very good game best I see n hull play in matter fact best team I seen down lane you played better than both Wigan and saints both team tried very hard great game.