This

I think fitness and conditioning is a problem. The problem being is that is all they seem to do to the detriment of other parts if the game.

I honestly think Radford is obsessed with the big and strong as possible era of the Bulls. The technical skills of the team are disgraceful

Agreed. The blind belief that enough sets of possession in the last third of the field will magically translate to points is staggering. Maybe if you have Hape and Vainokolo it will on occasion, but we're not on that position.

Exactly, the really scary thing is there seems to be a complete lack of appreciation for the fact we don't have the players to play like that.

Although we might not win any more games I would rather see Pryce and Sneyd given free reign to play expansive creative rugby. Especially in the opposition half. It would be a dam site better to watch than that dross served up last night. There is more chance the players would buy in to it as well.

I think its time we had a coach who can devote himself to the club and not have any outside interests,
last nights performance was dire , no passion or ideas to break the line.
watching wigans last game even when winning at half time wane shouted the dressing room down
because he demanded more, we need someone of his calibre to boost morale.....
I used to take bottles back to get money to go to boulevard as a kid..
i'm afraid they would stay in the pantry right now......

You've only to listen to Radford's radio interviews or watch his press conferences to understand what his pre-match and half time team talks must be like.

The coaching is crap ,defense is ok gang tackles one on one needs working on.
Never understood why Pearson gave him LR the job as he was defensive coach and we let in the 70 plus.
The whole team looks jaded though its end of season already,mentally exhausted [loose ball comes out and they just watch it instead of racing on to it
Need a new coach bad and play some of the youngsters to add a bit of enthusiasm to the team.

What now?
We ask PG what the real truth is behind everything, who needs weeding out aside from the obvious, despite all his so called no names that certain posters were insisting they were on a ridiculous sum (without any actual scrap of evidence) he somehow managed to get us to 6th in his very first season with next to naught in terms of infrastructure and again the next season plus wembley that was despite losing our only decent half to a head injury for much of the season ( I bet you wish we had a half that could kick like that) and an untested 22 year old at the back end trying to find his feet.

All this talk of McRae handing out (overpaid) contracts like confetti doesn't hold much water when you have a situation were we are now still at full cap and performing like we are, if that was the case then I'd take McRae anyday

I've posted before about how disappointing the second McRae spell with the club was. My main issue was not the salaries that the players were signed on, how do you have a squad similar in number to other teams with a salary cap in place and apparently pay everyone you sign ridiculous money. It doesn't add up, some of the contacts may have been inflated for the experience and quality of the player but not on the scale a lot of people believe.

My real issue was that a lot of the players signed were under the management of the same agent. The same agent acting for McRae and Gentle. For that McRae should be ashamed of his actions.

Just seen this on FB

Just stop buying into the product , its simple as that. Whilst everyone still goes nothing will ever change. This whole club needs a big reality check and part of me wants us to go down just so we can turn around and say I told you so.

No doubt people will still go and give the IAKOW bullcrap,I have seen worst times but I have never had the ripped out of me so much by this club as I have now.

We have coaches who would love to coach this club yet we time after time employ the same old crap. Brian Smith would come back after one phone call, for the so called forum coaches he would be a decent appointment and his style is not dated. He is a proper coach who more often then not overcomes th obstacles in front of him. In all honesty any local junior coach would be an improvement, having watched us train its so amatuerish where does our money even go ?

Was anybody surprised by that performance? 5 sets on their line with an attack that is led by Super Leagues most overrated number 9 and the worst back line at the club since we had Moon et al and we didn't look like scoring.....was anybody surprised. The whole club is a joke and is in denial.
Adam....you are the master of false promises.
Lee....just leave

I was going to the Cas CC game but after listening to the rugby mater doesn't want to go now. I'm kind of in two minds, I want to go because I don't want to feel just because some turd is ruining my club that that should be enough to put me off from going when I can't get to that many games anyway (the £50-£60 cost per match is irrelevant) but offering my 'support' to the club at a time when a mutiny is being called for because of how dire the situation is doesn't sit well with me either.

I've always come to watch us, good or bad, win or lose. I know it sounds like a IAKOW, it isn't, I'm usually the first to pipe up and say we're carp (& vehemently so!) but the club is in my blood as it all of us and to not go because of how things are and because of the shiate we're playing sometimes feels as if you're being forced to act in a certain way and that doesn't feel right to me either, I can't really explain why.

Even if fans don't turn up do you think that will really change the outcome of what Pearson does when he's shown to be either ignorant of his mistakes or just so immature & lame as a human being he can't stick his hand up and say he just got it plain wrong (the third reason rumour that he is somehow working for Allam and it's a deliberate long term ploy to get us out is ridicuous)

I won't be going to the cas game after last night's game. Maybe we should all email pearson to politely put our thoughts across

I can't go to the Cas game as we're away for the weekend.

After last night I'm not even bothered.

It may or may not work if people don't turn up, Pearson is a business man though and would act upon a crowd dwindling to near 7000 and below. The Cas CC game is a perfect chance for such a boycott as they can't add passholders on who dont attend to boost up the attendance. I'd much rather get my fix by going to watch the under 19s play in all honesty, imagine that if the 19s got a bigger crowd then the first team. Would never happen though too many are to happy just to turn up regardless and clap some of the worst stuff I have ever seen. You didnt even get one come on you Hull last night thats how deflated the place is, Ive never being so embarrassed to be an FC fan ever. I dont even wear colours now just so people dont ask me how the game went, cant bring myself to even talk about it!

In my years of supporting this club I have never refused to go but I do this season and I have a season pass, there not worth the agony or frustration anymore. Enough is enough, when pearson came he said we would never be embarrassed again but if anything this is worse then Agar era.

I left early last night for the first I can remember; I don't think I have ever been so bored watching a match.

We are completely devoid of any kind of attacking threat and we are going backwards. From where we sit we can here the coaching team and sometimes it is farcical. Last night, Sneyd was getting attention off the pitch for a cut and Radford was shouting into the radio, "get somebody on", "get somebody on", "anybody".

We never seem to build momentum, play the balls are just sooo slow. Jamie Shaul runs into to acting half to make yards and has to stand waiting for the play the ball. Liam Watts makes good yards and offloads, who to, Feka! Good effort by Feka to at least be there but he's not going to go the next 40 yards is he? Danny Houghton comes away from acting half and goes sideways, no runners and so as he is crabbing across he has to run away from the opposition, drops a ball off to a stationary player who runs into the opposition defense who've just moved up and stop him easily.

Michaels ends up with ball after one of our ponderous attempts at putting it through more than two sets of hands and decides he's going to take McGilvary on the outside 2 yards in from touch. Well that's never going work, yet 5 minutes later when McGilvary was crocked for a while and could hardly move, Yeaman just drives it in ignoring the opportunity outside him.

Lineham can't pass from acting half; ok, it's not his job to but when Talanoa insists on driving it in close to the opposition line, Tom comes in picks it up and has to swing the ball right before passing left like a grandfather clock, the opposition are off the line and another tackle is gone.

I know they have to spin it, but the coaching staff are delusional. Sheffield wasn't a "professional performance";our limited success this season comes from individuals. I would suggest the majority of our tries come from individual efforts and mistakes of others rather than tactically breaking down the opposition. Our build up play doesn't create space for players; we rely on smashing the door down, hope the opposition drop a kick or something off the cuff.

Rant over; i'm just getting sick of it all.

How do you do that? Is there an e mail address for him?

Quote ="El Masa Loco"icon_twisted.gif How do you do that? Is there an e mail address for him?'" probably adam@ hullfc.com or adam.pearson@hullfc.com

Quote ="El Masa Loco"icon_twisted.gif How do you do that? Is there an e mail address for him?'" probably adam@ hullfc.com or adam.pearson@hullfc.com

With 25 minutes to go last night my 14 year old son said to me 'are we leaving early tonight Dad?'. His friend who came to a few games the back end of last season and spent his birthday money on a pass and shirt for this season said ' I haven't been watching rugby that long but that was rubbish'. Basically I was sat there for 75 minutes (left 5 early) bored, the only reason I didn't go earlier is because I'm not sure when the park and ride buses arrive.

The only way forward now is for Radford and Last to be fired or walk, if not AP will be looking at serious financial losses next season, probably made worse by the reduced amount of money from Sky his Championship club will receive.

Quote ="Jake the Peg"probably adam@ hullfc.com or adam.pearson@hullfc.com'" More like Adam.pearson@sheffieldwednesday.com

Quote ="Jake the Peg"probably adam@ hullfc.com or adam.pearson@hullfc.com'" More like Adam.pearson@sheffieldwednesday.com

The other depressing thing about the club at the minute is that around us in the East stand at least there are more young passholders than ever, as the 'extra' fans we gained when we moved to the KC have now had kids of their own and are bringing them along. The way we are playing these kids will be reporting their parents to the NSPCC If they keep getting dragged along the boring games!

Must admit last night was a low in following hull. No atmosphere no energy by the team. Something gotto give.

The most entertaining thing last night was the guy at half time booting the ball in to the car boot. Closely followed by the handbags in SE corner.

Sick of it. There will be no Castleford CC match for me. Or Catalans.