You've been saying this for years. In 2011 you said in 3 years time Beharrell and co would be climbing the steps at Wembley or something like it. Maybe you meant selling programmes. When you're doing a jig celebrating [url=http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/06/24/time-go-terry-campese/=#FF0080[uCampese's[/u[/url arrival as a 13th new blocker of homegrown talent that strikes me as partial acceptance of actual, rather than fictional/claimed, order of priorities. That sounded a bit like Zod, sorry. Where is he BTW?

Look, I've no idea whether any of the current crop at FC will make it. But surely the latest international picks and Radford backing up words with action in selecting the likes of Logan and Lancaster are simply good things for Hull FC that deserve some small acknowledgement.. Quite why Rovers moderators feel the need to belittle it, saying it's either meaningless or "our kids are better than yours" is unnecessary derailment.

Back on topc, which is England's U19s. Anyone know how Ash Golding of Leeds went? He looks top drawer.

To be fair blockers of homegrown talent (or fantastic pros with loads of experience they can pass on to the youngsters in the squad; whichever you prefer), can only be sensibly made as a nett measure. We've moved on roughly as many 'pathblockers' as we've signed. Not an ideal level of churn, but that's a different issue.
It'd be as churlish not to acknowledge the achievement of Jansin Turgut, Jordan Abdull, Jack Logan and Callum Lancaster, as it would be to use them as bicker bait. And clearly neither you nor I are doing either of those things. It'd be a most unbecoming, for middle-aged folk who really should know better.
So well done to them, genuinely.

Seems I can't start a thread congratulating 3 Hull FC U19s getting picked for England, following a barren period under Agar where I think in 4 years only Houghton was brought through, without narky Rovers mods getting upset/defensive/paranoid. Ah well, just 34 days until pre season friendlies and the proper bickering can begin.

Mrs barista and mild rover having a spat how strange as I like both of them because they generally have good balanced arguments. come together you two

Abdul had a very good game, but both Lancaster and Turgut were poor. I hope it was just a one off as they are both players who I tipped to have big futures in the game. Toby King was Englands standout player.

With a name like Toby King he must be a future England Union player, I thought there was rule banning all Toby's from playing RL.

Thanks for the insight. Disappointing that Turgut and Lancaster were poor but pleased for Abdul. Hopefully in the medium term all three will benefit from the training and match experience.

The Relative Age Effect and how players mature into adulthood have a major bearing on this. You will find the majority who make the rep teams and Academy teams are quartile one but this doesnt always make them the SL stars of the future. i think the studies prove that the quartile 4 players are the ones who have more success at elite level.

Hull is a major hotbed of talent and we do produce many champion teams accross the age groups, the recent BARLA Yorkshire Cup proved this with a Hull finalist at every age group from U14 to U18 with 2 of them winning the trophies (2 finals stillto be played) on top of outstanding success in the National Cups this year with 3 teams all winning one at Youth level plus West Hull in the Conference.

The problem we have is FC and Rovers have to scrap over the same pool of talent and at this moment in time FC do seem to win the battle and secure the young players they want. Rovers then have to work with whats left but seem to produce good sides who have a point to prove. Having seen both clubs at work and how they go about things i will say they are improving in many ways and thye have some very good staff and coaches at each club, will be interesting to see how things change even more over the next couple of years with them working down the ETP pathways that the RFL have developed.

Seems like comments on the the club's website are [url=http://www.hullfc.com/article/37490/jansin-targets-more-after-biggest-achievement-yetsomewhat different.[/url

Turgut described as "poor" or "arguably England's best player".

To be fair though thats Radford's assessment of performance, based on his team selections last year I'm not sure I would trust it!

Just seen one of the centres who played in the last game, Gildart from Wigan, is heading to Florida for pre-season with the Wigan first team squad this week. This might mean Jack Logan gets his chance in the centres. Not sure if there are any other centres in the squad or not.
Somebody on the VT saying Lancaster had a poor game and may be replaced by another winger in the squad, but if not then we could potentially have all 4 of our selected players on the pitch for the next match. Would be fantastic!

To be fair the club are hardly likely to describe their own player as poor either

[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/31449/england-and-australia-name-teamsLogan In[/url Lancaster out

Try for Jack Logan



10-8 to England after 30 minutes, sounds like Australia the stronger though.

Abdull assist for Turgut try.

Abdull bomb too good for Aussies to handle, they fumble and Turgut chips for Ward try. Abdull coverts. Abdull should be MOM according to radio.

That said, Australia sounding strong.

What's the score Mrs B ? - sorry not been following.

22-14 England.

Make that 28-14 following try from Johnson and "brilliant" conversion from Abdull 5 metres from touch line.

Finished 28-14. Abdull steering us round the park with excellent kicking, Turgut captain, Logan on scoresheet. Proud night for FC's academy.

Thanks for the updates fantastic night for England Academy and a massive shot in the arm for Hull FC's youth policy

Quote ="Staffs FC"Thanks for the updates fantastic night for England Academy and a massive shot in the arm for Hull FC's youth policy '" The commentators were very positive about Abdull's skill and leadership. Great job, Radders. Some selection headaches with Pryce, Sneyd and Westerman in front of him. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Jordan-A ... story.html

Quote ="Staffs FC"Thanks for the updates fantastic night for England Academy and a massive shot in the arm for Hull FC's youth policy '" The commentators were very positive about Abdull's skill and leadership. Great job, Radders. Some selection headaches with Pryce, Sneyd and Westerman in front of him. www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Jordan-A ... story.html

Great result for England Academy and pleasing to see the Hull FC boys playing their part.

tonight is one of the first really visible signs that the investment in the academy under AP is beginning to pay off. yes we've had some encouraging displays in superleague from a few youngsters but this game showed some of our young players are up there with the best the game can offer. with a few more waiting in the wings the future is bright.

well done to all the england players tonight, this aussie team was hyped as something special before the series started, the future of NRL and Kangaroo rugby if you like. we've just matched them

Gives some vindication to the change of policy under Radford.
The signing of the young players is more exciting than the signing of any overseas player.
Looking forward to them kicking on in the black and white.