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| Quote ="hullbg"Rest players, lose games and finish 10th or 11th and have an extra away game. It is designed to make all games competitive.'"
Ah yeah of course, I didn't take into account the home and away part of the equation.
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| Does this mean the Challenge Cup will be pushed to the back of the season as Round 5 of the cup will have to be after Round 23 of the league?
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| Quote ="oooh Gravy!"Does this mean the Challenge Cup will be pushed to the back of the season as Round 5 of the cup will have to be after Round 23 of the league?'"
Why would it have to be after round 23 they take the placings from the previous season so this years top 8 will only enter the cup at round 6 (last 16)
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| Quote ="oooh Gravy!"Does this mean the Challenge Cup will be pushed to the back of the season as Round 5 of the cup will have to be after Round 23 of the league?'"
I assume it's the top 8 from the previous season not the current one.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I assume it's the top 8 from the previous season not the current one.'"
Ah ok
To me they're separate comps so one shouldn't impact the other
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| Quote ="oooh Gravy!"Ah ok
To me they're separate comps so one shouldn't impact the other'"
It is a seperate comp but I think what they are trying to do is make the games more competitive and avoid a lot of the annihilations that we currently see.
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| I was against these changes when they were announced but happy to accept them with an open mind now, the game is going stale.
tonight's game for example is pretty much dead rubber, Cas still need the points to finish top4, but even if we went on a miraculous run and finished 8th we are a million miles from Old Trafford. Under the new structure tonight's game would still be important for Cas to finish top4 as it is now, but we would be fighting for our lives to avoid ending the season against Championship teams and potentially losing our SL place.
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| The Magic game still makes for a lopsided fixture list. It should be every other team home and away. Someone will have to take on Wigan three times whilst someone else get the luxury of playing us three times.
Also, as Doc Brown says, two teams could play each other three times in the 'regular' season, once in the 'Super 8s', once in the play offs and once in the Cup. Far too many.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The Magic game still makes for a lopsided fixture list. It should be every other team home and away. Someone will have to take on Wigan three times whilst someone else get the luxury of playing us three times.
Also, as Doc Brown says, two teams could play each other three times in the 'regular' season, once in the 'Super 8s', once in the play offs and once in the Cup. Far too many.'"
with the big clubs now getting more big money spinning games, the Magic Weekend either needs to go back to its original objective of showcasing RL to non-heartland areas or it needs to be scrapped.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"The Magic game still makes for a lopsided fixture list. It should be every other team home and away. Someone will have to take on Wigan three times whilst someone else get the luxury of playing us three times.
Also, as Doc Brown says, two teams could play each other three times in the 'regular' season, once in the 'Super 8s', once in the play offs and once in the Cup. Far too many.'"
An example that could have happened this season
We will play rovers 3 times. We could also have faced them in the cup and twice in the play offs making 6 games.
So in effect no different to this season.
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| I'm going to wait for someone who can spell structure to comment first, then we can have a conversation
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| Quote ="Standee"I'm going to wait for someone who can spell structure to comment first, then we can have a conversation'"
Great contribution to the thread as always.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Great contribution to the thread as always.'"
Its because he's a StrucTURD ?
Really Standee that was a pointless comment to make .... you don't have an opinion because no-one else can type????
FFS get a life....
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| I really don't get what people find complicated about it? I think it's a ready-made excuse for people who just don't like change!
Yes, there are minor details (like any sport... try looking up the qualifying procedures for the Champions League and tell me they're simple!). But if you don't understand this, then you're either not trying hard enough or are clearly stupid.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I really don't get what people find complicated about it? I think it's a ready-made excuse for people who just don't like change!
Yes, there are minor details (like any sport... try looking up the qualifying procedures for the Champions League and tell me they're simple!). But if you don't understand this, then you're either not trying hard enough or are clearly stupid.'"
Exactly ... the SL playoff changed pretty much every year since it started, and some people still don't under stand that now..
If it makes that Last 7 games of our season more competitive (unlike they ones we are having now) then I am all for it !!
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| How will the home and away fixtures be decided in the end of season competition between the bottom Super League clubs and the top Championship teams?
How can you have a fair system?
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| Quote ="russelbarwich"I don't like it, cant agree with it. I think it will be the death of the game.
People say attendances are dropping and interest in the game is waning. Then do something about the referee's, disciplinary or salary cap. Don't mess with the fixtures which have followed the same general format for years and years.
A lot of fans will be confused by this (me included) and to be honest it just p's me off.'"
At last someone with common sense! After 35years of watchin RL, this will be the final straw. This system only serves to dilute the competition and reward the lower clubs. Why change? the Franchise system was working
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| Quote ="lemonhead"At last someone with common sense! After 35years of watchin RL, this will be the final straw. This system only serves to dilute the competition and reward the lower clubs. Why change? the Franchise system was working'"
Working.... seriously....
Wales....
London...
Bradford...
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| Quote ="lemonhead"At last someone with common sense! After 35years of watchin RL, this will be the final straw. This system only serves to dilute the competition and reward the lower clubs. Why change? the Franchise system was working'"
Tell Crusaders, Tell Bradford, Tell Wakey that it was working. Also tell Fev/Halifax/Leigh supporters it is working.
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| Quote ="mk_fc"Working.... seriously....
Wales....
London...
Bradford...'"
Is that an answer or just a series of random place names? why don't you add Hull, Salford, Huddersfield ? What is it about the current system which isn't working - so far no one has been able to give me a clear reason
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| Quote ="hullbg"Tell Crusaders, Tell Bradford, Tell Wakey that it was working. Also tell Fev/Halifax/Leigh supporters it is working.'"
Fev, Halifax & leigh can only just 3,000 between them - they offer nothing to the comp. So dont understand your point. Let just stick to the flat capped stereotype of RL and let the RFU and NRL poach all our best layers in their flourishing global sport.
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| I am absolutely convinced that people simply look at this and think its complicated. It's simple. Championship clubs can build towards promotion. Bottom clubs in SL can scrap to survive.. 23 games then 7 then play off. Now either my education was incredibly superior (which it certainly wasn't) or some people simply don't want to see the good this potentially can bring.
But hey that's sport I guess. I don't want Radford others do. Let's keep the debate civil though.
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| Quote ="lemonhead"Fev, Halifax & leigh can only just 3,000 between them - they offer nothing to the comp. So dont understand your point. Let just stick to the flat capped stereotype of RL and let the RFU and NRL poach all our best layers in their flourishing global sport.'"
Rovers pre superleague offered similar, they now average around 8k.
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| Quote ="lemonhead"Fev, Halifax & leigh can only just 3,000 between them - they offer nothing to the comp. So dont understand your point. Let just stick to the flat capped stereotype of RL and let the RFU and NRL poach all our best layers in their flourishing global sport.'"
And why is that?
Answer because there is no chance of progressing in the current climate. Halifax Leigh Fev can attract big crowds with the ambition to break through the current glass ceiling.
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| Quote ="@airlie_bird"And why is that?
Answer because there is no chance of progressing in the current climate. Halifax Leigh Fev can attract big crowds with the ambition to break through the current glass ceiling.'"
Big crowds? really - when Leigh were last in the Superleage they averaged less than 4k. Fev - ??? really?? this takes the sport back 20 years - whilst the Aussies build strong clubs we dilute our sport to the lowest common denominator. There isn't enough player quality to sustain the existing SL teams so where is it going to come from to serve an extra 12 teams? Too many traditionalists run our sport and get their way whilst the world moves on around them. If it was in this country, the RFL would have scrapped the State of Origin because one side dominated but the Aussies didn't even give that a second thought. Instead they focussed on the positives and now the balance of power seems to be changing. To change now after only 6 years of the current system is barmy
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