Tbf to Ellis he is more than just a grafter, but I agree with you, blaming injuries is ridiculous.

Radford sounded broken.

Watts mentioned the constant chopping and changing.

watts talks more sense than our coach

As I say I was knocking Ellis, just meaning it isn't as hard for a 2nd rower to come in and even just tackle and make metres, than it is for say a half-back to come in and dictate the play, or a centre to finish off set piece moves.

He said he only had 18 fit players including Miller.
No mention of Sa,Crooks or Lancaster.

Cant believe Pearson can give Radford more time he is taking the club backwards.
The players have done a Huddersfield to Radford,The difference is they knew that Peter Gentle was getting sacked and reacted accordingly.This time the player reaction is to get rid of Radford.Anyone seen Paea since he was dropped?
His recent performances like several others says it all.
Dead Man Walking as its obvious now there are player issues with Radford behind the scenes.

Just leave. 7 wins is a catastrophe with that squad in my eyes.

Hmm he said I was down to just 18 fit players tonight with miller being the 18th man yet Lancaster just tweeted " early night ready for game tomorrow"!!! Be intresting if crooks plays for Donny on Sunday

did he say that apart from wigan we have ran every other team close? that is a favourite one of his

just watched the highlights, your defence was beyond embarrassing. Scott Taylor scored with 4 players on his back. George Williams looked as if he could break the line any time he wanted and i think it was Rankin, well his attempt on Tierny was pitiful at best.

Unfortunately that was during the warm up before the match.

Yeh, completely agree, its getting embarrassing for him now, and easthullfc, and staffs and baldy, and all off the other deluded wits

Wigan had 9 players out - 75% of their salary cap sat in the stands according to their coach.
The worry is we lose Crooks, & Lineham, & possibly others, before Radford gets the sack.
Certainly don't think we've got the harmonious dressing room Pearson believed we'd have when
he appointed the numpty.

Agreed, not seen the highlights but there were some comical moments. What gets me, is the lack of passion. When you went 10-4 up, our players were stood under the sticks saying and doing nothing whatsoever. Devoid of ideas, leadership, RL ideas, passion. You can add to the list. The buck stops with the coach.

Did he not say eighteen [iavailable[/i players? Slightly different to eighteen [ifit[/i players.

This is a great summary.

I refrained from posting last night, it was so disappointing. But you're bang on about the 10-4 point. The huddle behind the posts at a point where we were still in the game was actual offensive to me as a supporter who'd travelled. For starters no one was speaking to each other. But worse, Logan was stood on the fringe of this group on his own. As a debutant with a massive ask in front of him for which he was probably unprepared, for a senior player like Westerman or Whiting or Houghton not to be putting the arm round the shoulder and trying at least to rev the group up a bit made me really angry. The only person trying to do this in any way was Rankin. Absolutely appalling and an insult in terms of effort to those who went.

We are the very opposite of Castleford, who are below cap with strucutures, attacking flare, total cohesion and visible passion.

And what the feck was the idea behind leaving Feka on the bench for 50 minutes? As it turned out there was no point in him being on at all, other than to risk injury in a game he clearly could have had some positive impact on if used earlier. Don't get me started on the random pivot thing either.

Pearson has a bloody huge mountain to climb to get anywhere near this year's pass sales I reckon. As bad as Huddersfield was last year, last night was as disappointing. A third derby beating this season will be the last straw for some.

Please don't go

Possibly was too angry to take it all in but surely Lancaster was available to play unless Radford thinks the u19 game is more important than a sl game???

As a non pass holder I pick the game I attend. I was planning on going next week despite it been on Sky but last night has made me change my mind. It's only going to be the same again next week.
I will go the derby like I always do, not sure about the rest as I don't fancy paying to watch us get hammered by Saints and Leeds (don't fancy paying to watch us get hammered by Rovers but I will).
We have a tough last 7 (including last night) and I wasn't expecting us to win many but just to put in good performances and keep a tight scoreline would sway me to get a season pass next year but we are 1 game down and it was a pathetic result. More of that over the next few weeks and I definitely won't be getting a pass next season, unless there is a change of coach.

Sir Alex Ferguson wasn't actually very good in his first season at Man Utd. just saying.

However he had a bit of a decent track record at Aberdeen, which got him the job and bought him some time to start with.

Leaving Feka on the bench for 50 was criminal. Rovers will pan us in the derby I fear

It is so disappointing. The fans are now turned largely against Radford, and there will probably be fighting amongst the fans at bradford away if Radford is still in charge, based on the anger that seems to be brewing.

To add balance, neither was Moyes.

Should they have stuck with him ?

Please dont forget the pub landlords biggest fan Legends and icons.

Plus fergie did not take utd backwards, just didn't get instant improvement

we'll never know how good or bad Moyes would have been. I honestly think that sacking him and bringing someone else in wont make that much of a difference really, its not like the next coach can go out and bring in 6/7 new top quality players as they just aren't out there and if and when they are the top clubs will be after them too.
Unless you're going to bring in an experienced coach I think you may be in the same boat for a whike.