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| Poor man's lee smith. Expect him and colborn on the wings in a few weeks
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Poor man's lee smith. Expect him and colborn on the wings in a few weeks'"
Why? Is Lineham leaving / injured?
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| Quote ="number 6"
who would make way though?'"
Yeah, as Sheldon indicates, your squad already has good depth. At the moment, he's apparently down to 4th choice at wing and centre with us, but at least (I assume), he'd be next in line for a shot in the halfs or fullback.
At Hull, he'd be no closer in any position and further back for a couple. Unless Hull have a biggish clear out - As in 2 of McDonnell, Crookes and Miller, or something, I don't see him playing even as much, for you. Plus Biggs maybe just learning the ropes at Doncaster.
I'd be sorry to seem him go. He's flakey, but will do something out of the ordinary from time to time. And we'd miss his versatility, IMO.
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| Always thought he was a decent player for us. Not the best, not the worst. Seemed to play better for Rovers than for us. I'd welcome him back.
Seems a bit of a strange signing though if the rumours are true. He's down the pecking order at Rovers and I think he'll be down the pecking order with us as I can only see him being a squad player so why would he want to switch to another club where he'll be in the same position? If anything you'd think he'd be pushing for a move to a club were he could make the starting 13.
From our point of view as well it doesn't appear that we need him given the number of players we have at our disposal. I can only think that if this is true that someone must be leaving.
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| I believe 2 out 1 possibly 2 in Radders and AP won't take any $hit. Remember AP did the same at City until he got it right.
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| I'd expect Crookes to go, as his replacement its a good move.
Think it will more likely happen at the end of this season though.
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| We'll win bu66er all if player like Craig Hall are coming in.
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| Quote ="GM1"We'll win bu66er all if player like Craig Hall are coming in.'"
Even as a squad player.
Don't see the problem if he improves the squad (by replacing Crookes)
All teams have a few average squad players, Leeds have won SL a few times with average players like Ian Kirke getting game time.
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| Quote ="GM1"We'll win bu66er all if player like Craig Hall are coming in.'"
TBH we'll probably win bu66er all whether he comes in or doesn't.
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| So the story is he's upset at losing his starting place to Travis Burns? Understandable, but if he doesn't want to be a wing / centre squad player for Rovers why would he move to Hull to be a wing / centre squad player?
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| Quote ="Wildmoose"So the story is he's upset at losing his starting place to Travis Burns? Understandable, but if he doesn't want to be a wing / centre squad player for Rovers why would he move to Hull to be a wing / centre squad player?'"
It's a good question. But [uif[/u he did leave rovers, the number of clubs that are both stable and where he'd have a decent chance of being a starter, isn't big. Widnes maybe, but that is a long trek along the M62.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Even as a squad player.
Don't see the problem if he improves the squad (by replacing Crookes)
All teams have a few average squad players, Leeds have won SL a few times with average players like Ian Kirke getting game time.'"
I Agree just look at yesterday and last week, Green, Watts, Carvell, Tuson, Mcdonnell, Arguably first choice players yet the lads who came in put in a top performance against last years Grand finalist and this years highly fancied. Imo we would caved and picked up two heavy beatings if we'd of gone into those games with 5 first choice players out.
I think Craig Halls a good squad player and would add to our squad. However I believe talk of a switch back is a little wide of the mark but stranger things have happened.
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| Quote ="major black". Remember AP did the same at City until he got it right.'"
Thought City got it right after they binned AP off.
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| Quote ="barham red"Thought City got it right after they binned AP off.'"
Without Pearson Hull City would still be languishing down in League Two in my opinion. Any success they are now enjoying wouldn't have been possible if he hadn't have helped guide them up to the Championship.
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| Quote ="barham red"Thought City got it right after they binned AP off.'"
Who was it that got City moving in the right direction as their owner before he sold them?. If it had not been for AP City would not be the position they are in now.
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| I laugh at people slagging CH off, just about the most naturally gifted player we had in attack during agar's tenure, excellent scoring record with us(47 tries in 76 games) and can kick goals. Yeah his defence is a bit flaky but then so is the golden boy Crooks(who has had some woeful games in that respect both last year and this) and is prone to brain farts (who isn't let's be honest)
Add in the fact he has only just turned 26 and can cover a number of positions and probably isn't going to cost very much at all IF we have to sign him for some strange reason he wouldn't be the worst option.
That said it looks like we are well and truly messing things about with lower quality players in the ranks in areas we don't really need them.
For me we should have made a decision regarding the wingers long before because signing Hall gives us effectively 6 wingers!
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| Quote ="F.C. Aces"Quote ="barham red"Thought City got it right after they binned AP off.'"
Who was it that got City moving in the right direction as their owner before he sold them?. If it had not been for AP City would not be the position they are in now.'" Quote ="Doc Brown"Quote ="barham red"Thought City got it right after they binned AP off.'"
Without Pearson Hull City would still be languishing down in League Two in my opinion. Any success they are now enjoying wouldn't have been possible if he hadn't have helped guide them up to the Championship.'" Quote ="barham red"Thought City got it right after they binned AP off.'"
What they said.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I laugh at people slagging CH off, just about the most naturally gifted player we had in attack during agar's tenure, excellent scoring record with us(47 tries in 76 games) and can kick goals. Yeah his defence is a bit flaky but then so is the golden boy Crooks(who has had some woeful games in that respect both last year and this) and is prone to brain farts (who isn't let's be honest)
Add in the fact he has only just turned 26 and can cover a number of positions and probably isn't going to cost very much at all IF we have to sign him for some strange reason he wouldn't be the worst option.
That said it looks like we are well and truly messing things about with lower quality players in the ranks in areas we don't really need them.
For me we should have made a decision regarding the wingers long before because signing Hall gives us effectively 6 wingers!'"
This. If we were in a situation whereby we played both Hall and Crooks we would have two of the most naturally gifted attacking centres in the league. Also two of the poorest defenders. Hall was very very good with ball in hand in a small amount of space. I would much Rather have Hall than Crookes.
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| The sort of player that when he plays against us i tend to notice the good things he does in attack. Certainly did at KC last season.
But when he played for us i also noticed the errors he made in defence.
Could still make a decent stand off for us though?
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| Is this as credible as the Long rumour last week?
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"Is this as credible as the Long rumour last week?'"
Something in it. I was chatting with his dad, he never said he would be coming back to Hull but said he doubt he would play for the dobbins again. He said watch this space.
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| Radders obviously doesn't rate Miller and had hauled Rankin off in the last 2 games. I want to believe in Rankin and its very early days but for a 6 to get subbed 2 games running.....
Heremaia took the line on yesterday, stretched them both left and right and looked the best player on the pitch for his 20 mins cameo (if only he's been on earlier we'd have won) but looking through Radfords eyes we appear short in this area.
Hall is a very gifted player, messed about from coach to coach. There's possibly attitude issues that havent helped him but this could be a really smart move. I was actually asking where Hall was yesterday as for me he's miles better than what HKR have in their halves at the mo. Also, we are generally short of 3/4s too.
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| Quote ="lummy"Radders obviously doesn't rate Miller and had hauled Rankin off in the last 2 games. I want to believe in Rankin and its very early days but for a 6 to get subbed 2 games running.....
Heremaia took the line on yesterday, stretched them both left and right and looked the best player on the pitch for his 20 mins cameo (if only he's been on earlier we'd have won) but looking through Radfords eyes we appear short in this area.
Hall is a very gifted player, messed about from coach to coach. There's possibly attitude issues that havent helped him but this could be a really smart move. I was actually asking where Hall was yesterday as for me he's miles better than what HKR have in their halves at the mo. Also, we are generally short of 3/4s too.'"
I agree that it seems unusual that Rankin is getting subbed. I wouldn't say that it's obvious that he doesn't rate Miller though. He's getting named in the 19 man squad but there's only two half back spots in the team for Rankin, Horne and Miller so one is obviously going to miss out. I believe Miller can only play in the halves (someone correct me if I'm wrong) so it doesn't make much sense to put him on the bench. Much better to put Heremeia there as he can play in multiple positions.
I also agree that Heremeia should have been on earlier. I suspect that he would have come on in the first half as we've seen in other games if Shaul hadn't been sin-binned. Radder's probably decided that we still needed Houghton's defensive steel. Of course that doesn't explain why he didn't come on when we was back to full strength.
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| maybe its tactical with rankin being subbed, warrington were visably tiring in the second half, bringing on aaron with 20 odd minutes left with fresh legs would be beneficial to us
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| The allams are the only reason city are were they are now they bailed them out otherwise they would have been in administration
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