Said the same on the way out of the ground, Walsh also said "friendlies are meaningless" and we all know how that turned out.

what's worrying me is that we've never had a hammering like that from a lower division team in a pre season friendly - even with kids playing. something just looks wrong at the club to me

What's wrong at the club??? We got beaten by a good team they had most of there first 13 on & we had a few first teamers in for a bit then our kids in & they taught us a lesson...our kids needed to keep there feet on the ground rather then walking around in an FC hoodie thinking there the finished article, people saying we are going to be relegated & think the club are in turmoil make me laugh!

nonetheless it was still a lower division team and our first teamers didn't exactly set the world alight in the first half. we should have at least handed over to the youngsters with a lead. when we have had good seasons in the past we have built a bit of momentum in the pre season to carry into the season proper. but what the hell it was only a friendly, i'll live with that for now, let's see where we are after the first 10 games or so, but i reserve the right to be worried

I hope you're right but no one but you seems to have seen anything to suggest we're even moving in the right direction on the field

Other then the 7 role I think our recruitment is even or better for the new season, a couple of friendlys don't determine your season ahead, I think after last seasons lows people are just worried we are no further on AP is doing a lot for us in not just the season ahead but years to come.

Thats spot on it was still a friendly. Catalan is when it starts

you wont have it at all will you......"we had a FEW first teamers in for a BIT"
Fev had around 9 new signings in that side today who had only played together 2/3 times, with possibly 6 sat in the stand and not involved who were regular first teamers last season.
Take a look at the Hull team sheet and tell me which players from the following will not be regular first team later this month.......Shaul, Lineham, Yeamon, Crookes, Horne, Miller, Rankin, Watts, Green, Whiting, Westerman, Bowden, Thompson & arundel..........
admittedly you also had half a dozen players not playing..........but dont make out the players above should not be too strong for any part time team

Wont have what? I just said our clubs not in the mess some people think it is, we was beaten by a better team today, so what you giving it?

No argument from me, we should have been able to win the first half but we were poor and Fev were really up for it.

Second half was pointless and I hope it hasn't damaged any of the kids confidence too much.

I thought Featherstone where full time now. Wasn't there talk of them trying for a license??

Fev are better than a couple of the SL teams!
Still a dreadful result, but I won't be worried/bothered until it starts happening in SL games. Just feel sorry for Rich and also the travelling fans.
Hope Radders has laced into them.

not sure, they would need to have a wealthy backer to sustain full time wages on championship attendances, less tv money etc. maybe they have a mix of full and part time

No they have 3 or 4 players like Andy Ellis who work in the community/schools full time and the rest are part time and all have jobs.

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In all fairness to Radford he wont be the first coach at Hull to fail to get to grips with some players' inability to behave like pro sportsmen if indeed that is how it pans out. Interesting that he's gone for questioning the lifestyles of some this early - must have been some fairly obvious evidence in the dressing room that some players were 'under prepared' for this game.

Here we go again

Maybe Radford can be the coach who finally sorts this out. Who knows.

When Radford took the job didn't he say there was no problem and we'd be surprised how many were tee total?

It will be the same players we've resigned over the years, just cancel their deals.

I bet westerman wasn't in that group though !!

as i said before I cant really understand after all the historic half back issues at hull why this season the coach would go with two 'Rookies' with very little NRL experience. I just think that is going to cost you big time this season. Miller has been poor every time I have seen him and Rankin looks no better.....

All the hype about Radford sorting out the attitude problems seems to have been spectacularly short lived.

Hull played yesterday with no props or a hooker. Not a day to be worrying about half backs.

In fairness he has more or less named certain players in the press today - maybe it will take a bit of time to weed them out.

How many times have you seen Rankin? Ive seen him against Bradford and Rovers and he looked good, Miller showed a lot of potential last year and looked really good in spells, I dont think we will go with these two together and expect Horne and Rankin to start.

Problem is, who else was available?

I don't think we the fans have learned very much from this pre-season.

I haven't seen much evidence of new structures or the entertaing, attacking rugby that Radford promised us.

Our defence seems worse than last season.

I think yesterday's match taught us:

1. Our pack is too lightweight
2. Our U19's aren't as good as we (or they) thought.