I just hope we dont start with Horne against Cats, he's been great for Hull over the years but we have to give Rankin and Miller time together and not drop one for a couple of poor performances.

Think you are right hopefully there partnership will grow..thee roughly the same age away from normal surroundings so last thing they want is to be sat in the stands feeling fed up & wanting to return home, so i hope our fans get behind the team, who knows what the new season will bring? I for one didn't think we would have made one of the major finals last year.

They've played together before, live together and the best of mates im confident if given time they'll come good as a partnership.

this must be one of the worst threads ever.give the kid a chance.look through out the history of super league and you'll see alot of the good overseas players had very average first seasons.pat richards and tim smith spring to mind but i would be happy with either of them in our team the last 3/4 seasons

Kind of exciting when I think of what they can do
....they can't be to bad as they've repressented at a few levels of there young careers, & let's face it OZ is not short of young halfs coming through.

100% This ^

Effing ridiculous, this thread. This kid will be the best HB in the league in two years, hope he stays long term. Are people just bagging him because he's an Aussie? Schofield FFS.

The amount of times you relied on Dobson will be evident this year. Like it or not, he was your best player every single year and often won games single-handed in the same way Roger the Dodger did.

At what point did I bring Rovers into this?

All I asked was a simple question.

This board is slowly becoming indistinguishable from the HDM comments section. Stupid knee jerk comments like the OP, people having a dig at Rovers at any given opportunity, Rovers fans replying with something equally inane. I'm sure the avarage age of posters these days is about 9.

Miller COULD be a decent scrum half but not if he stays. For his own career he needs to move on.

Why is that then?

Confidence in the first instance. Playing behind a poor pack week in week out will take its toll and having the inexperienced Radford as a coach will only compound the matter.

Our pack is ok we have replaced old players for new quite well imo,

troll

Anyone remember his first game at Cas? He made breaks and created tries. Proves he can do those things. Needs confidence to do those things consistently so lay off him and give him time.

I agree.
Paea is a good replacement for O'Meley
Feka is a very different player to Lynch
I suspect/hope Tuson will be more effective than Tickle was last season
Green and Bowden both look at least as good as last year
Ellis was our best player yesterday IMO
Could be Bobby Tyson Wilson's breakthrough year
Two more than handy hookers
Not seen Watts yet, obviously, three experienced back rowers in Whiting, Westerman and Pitts.

Could be worse.

same old same old for the last three pre-seasons, kr idiots claiming to be the all knowing coaches of rugby league!

In gentle we trust.

Stupid thread with a stupid title. What "situation"? What "mess"?

Lets judge Miller (and everyone else) after a few competitive games.

Lynch was ordinary last year and i'm happy he's moved on, Feka is a completely different player, you're right. Hopefully this signals a more aggressive approach, something Tuson has plenty of too.

Bobby Tyson-Wilson will be in the 17 by the end of the year, his hands are superb for a forward.

As if by magic!

Massive engine in defence though, Lynch. Him and Houghton got through shedloads of work so amongst our props we have plenty of go-forward potential in Paea, Feka, Watts and Green, but no workhorse in a Dowes/Fitz/Lynch mould (players to do the unglamorous graft), that worries me a bit. BTW has bags of potential, and 'd like to bet Radders will seek out opportunities for him. I genuinely get the sense that integrating the academy with the first team and actively promoting from within is one of his main aims.

Lads, what a ridiculous thread this is. I'm a red but I'm cringing at the OP, give the kid a break. A new partnership needs time to gel, and he needs a decent pack winning the battle to lay the platform, which I've barely seen of hull since having miller. I know you lot have a reputation for pressure on players but this is stupid. But he will not be the best scrum half in the league in 2 years, Walsh, smith, myler, sinfield, Tim smith all better

I don't mind losing a bit of defensive work for the extra aggression we should get from Feka. Under Gentle we went too far the other way and sacrificed far too much going forward.

Understating it for me
Love ogre but that's a trade up
Our hooker interchange is the best in the league in my opinion
Ellis with his 1st pre season in 10+ years can only be a good thing-hoping for peacock like benefits to us
Tickle won't be missed based on previous 18months, very much like Tuson and more than a bit gutted this has happened to him
Westy looked good last year for me, but with an improved role instead of the boring carry and tackle game he's had to play he could make giant strides this year!
Feka can hopefully replace moa finally
And Green and Bowden can but improve at their age in the position they play
Watts will hopefully find his best form again.

That's a very handy pack in my opinion