All fans of FC, Hull City & Rovers should as he can cause massive problems for all 3 teams as he is such a loose cannon and has direct links to the 3 clubs in one form or another us a tenant at the KC, City as the owner & Rovers as benefactor. As he will go out of his way just to spite individuals and a City as whole as it is appearing.



Think you have more than a valid point Wilf and the interview in the paper is just laughable but shows how dangerous the guy is to us all. He seems to be trying to spread fear to simply get his own way. He still has no hard evidence that any of what he has dreamt up will benefit the club or City as a whole re the Stadium Ownership or Name change.

The more he spouts his bile in the media to more harm he not only does to his own self righteous dictorial character but also to the City and the more proof he is not interested in anything other than making a huge pile of money out of it no matter at what cost to everyone else ala Ruscador.

The fact that the shortest name is Hull City he just ignores when pointed out to him which again proves it is nothing more than a spiteful move. I'm still waiting for him to f@ck off to Melton like he promised.

A City fan on the not606 forum has suggested that the club sell 10 year season passes which will generate money to fund the extension of the east stand which will generate the extra income that Allam wants!

Many, including myself, mentioned that this bloke could not be trusted further than he could be thrown and its proving to be right.

His claim that he was deprived the opportunity to take the freehold is laughable. He deprived himself by refusing to negotiate and wanting the stadium plus LAND for free.

His claim that Tigers has always been part of the company name, since 1904 is not laughable, its just plain wrong. Take a look at Companies house website (if you can be bothered). The year of incorporation of Hull City AFC (Tigers)Ltd was some time in the year 2000



That he cannot see that shortening the name IS changing the name questions his command of the English Language.

Having read the statement on the City til we die website on the rationale that a shorter name gives a better marketing tool once again questions the guys comprehension. He simply doesn't understand the sporting business. You do not attract additional income on the basis of a fabricated name. There is a quote somewhere in which Allam states that Manchester United attracted US investment because they dropped FC from their name

Nothing to do with the countless trophies, history and tradition which they had!!!!

Finally, for him to say, "They can say City all they like, Its my money, my club, I will do what I want and no body can ever question my business dealings" (paraphrased). Firstly, does he not realise that some of these fanes have been putting money in for decades? Does he not realise that a sporting club in substance belongs to the fans??

As someone else mentioned, when is he going to make good on his promise to relocate to Melton?? Don't hold your breath, it was just another empty promise.

Very much glad he has no direct interest in Hull FC. The sooner he is out of the KC the better for all parties concerned.

White Elephant.

If they had sold out all of their matches so far, they might have a point. If they survive this season and next season in the Premier league, the novelty factor will have worn off and crowds will be similar to that of Fulhams.

They would only need to use the extension for less than half of the games in the season (Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle perhaps Everton)

exactly. It is not sustainable

Indeed so.

I think you're right, Smallie. This always has been and, out of necessity, will always continue to be his goal. Make no mistake, the rebranding of a minor premier league club in order to sell a few shirts in the far East will generate peanuts compared to the commercial income at his fingertips in the shape of the stadium and it's land. He knows that full well. It's almost as if he's saying 'if you want to keep the name I need the stadium - get behind me in numbers'. How else can you interpret this:

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Interestingly, that quote also confirms it was always his intention to generate a commercial income from the freehold, forget 'sporting village gifts' and 'I'm doing it to thank the city of Hull and it's people for the haven you gave me'. His mercenary agenda is now laid bare for even the most ardent seal-clappers whose rose-tinted spectacles must now surely be sliding off the end of their noses.

Adam Pearson hinted at our forum the other week that Allam was attempting to negociate with the council again. But only yesterday Phil Buckingham tweeted this:

@PJBuckingham "A definite conclusion drawn today, there appears to be zero chance of reconciliation between Assem Allam & Hull City Council".3:26pm - 12 Nov 13

Has another smack in the face from the council precipitated the latest, hilarious, tantrums?

David Lloyd anyone?

I pointed all this out to David Burns on Sportstalk in 2011. If it was a gift, why would you need the stadium to borrow against? Who would foot the running costs of these gymnastics arenas, an Olympic size swimming pool and 2nd ice rink in an era of public spending austerity? It had to be a commercial, money-making development to benefit him, whether City or another Allamhouse entity. This was subsequently proven in the rants bit later about wives going to "boutiques" next to the stadium whilst the men went to the game. The ridiculous sporting gift fairytale was a transparent wrapper for a commercial land grab. The promise of sporting facilities to keep children off the streets appears to have vanished. I'd like the council to give me the Guildhall for nothing so I can build a hotel in it and keep the profits. It's my right. Otherwise I'll antagonise all the councillors by calling them something silly. It's so logical.

How did Burnsy respond?

I said this 2 years ago when I heard his insane rant about merging Hull and Rovers. He's a forking fruitcake.

I sincerely hope the rumours of an AP consortium to buy the stadium come to fruition.

Can the council liquidate the SMC?

I would be genuinely interested to hear his views on this. Conspicuous by his absence, and by that, confirming his Egg Chasing hatred.

Just heard the 5 live podcast. Genius!

Well, him and Phil Buckingham I think were on, both were a bit surprised, but I got a lot of airtime.

The main points I made werre:
The story doesn't stack up, "gifting" a massive sporting arena to the city if you have to borrow to fund it.
It has to be a commercial venture, otherwise who finds the interest payments on the reported £113m cost? You're not going to do it off low-returning and land-hungry assets like Swimming pools and ice rinks. And who pays the running costs?
If the commercial ventures don't return (and returns from retail land are diminishing as customers move online) and repayments can't be met, the stadium could end up in the hands of the banks, with zero public/council control
How is there town planning capacity for another retail development anyway? The patchwork of shopping centres in the city centre mean loads of vacant units already, so why would the planning authorities sign off yet another one less than a mile away when there's no demand? Planning policy generally s moving away from "out of centre" approvals.
There are a lot of additional covenants on West Park and a Royal Charter too, there are good and long-standing reasons for that

There was a lot of nodding along, but I don't think they really got it, bit like "Very interesting love, now make me a brew while I ring Assem to try and get a view of the plans for this fantastic sporting village he's building for the people of Hull. They cost three grand you know! We'll be a 2 ice-rink city, that's a first!"



Subsequently of course the boutique comment showed it was a retail idea, and the latest outburst that it was to fund City's coffers.

He also did say, "if we don't get the KC we WILL build at Melton for £161m." Not heard much about that one lately.

Wait until the council changes to lib dems again and it will be back on the agenda

Surely if the Council did decide to offload the stadium if would have to be put up for sale, they simply can't give it away.

I doubt he'd come back on here. He's had his headlamp polished and is seeing Allam for what he is - I'd be surprised if he'd come back on here to eat humble pie.

Looks like Lambrettaman's one of the ringleaders of this CTWD supporters group who Allam is dismissing as the "vocal minority". He's being very prolific and scathing about his one-time Pharaoh over on [url=http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/237028-Assem-Allam-on-meeting-with-supporters-re-name-changethe quite-entertaining 606 City forum[/url.

He still thinks they should be given the stadium, though, poor little Lamb.

These few posts did catch my eye, though:

[url=http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/237028-Assem-Allam-on-meeting-with-supporters-re-name-change/page15Wonder who the mysterious father-in-law is?[/url

I actually thought your call to Humberside was the point at which Burnsy almost visibly checked himself and started looking at things a bit more objectively, Mrs B. He's obviously got a grain more intelligence then the rest of the one-eyed soccer-mad sheep on there. Since then I've thought he's been a lot more appraisive about Allam and his motives tbh. More recently Phil Buckingham has had the scales fall from his eyes judging from Twitter, and Mike White surely won't have appreciated Allam's apparently misogynistic behaviour to his wife(? (I think)) Amanda during the recent, now infamous, interview.

For any of them still in doubt that A-LaLa-m's motives for the name change are for commercial rather than manipulative reasons towards the council only need to take a look at the photo of this headline currently being passed around social networking sites by gleeful City fans:



That article is only a few months old. Has something else happened (as Phil Buckingham alluded to the other day on Twitter) to necessitate another wave of antagonism towards the council? If those were his tactics, they don't appear to be working, the only antagonism from the City fans at present seems to be generated towards himself.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01lggmbThe 5 Live interview seems to be the major catalyst.[/url Worth a listen if you haven't heard it yet.

Oh my. I'd not heard that interview. He comes across really well doesn't he?

He comes over like a spoilt child. My decision, my money. No-one questions my decisions. Really Mr I am, Thankfully the council have done.

To be fair, he's paid for the rights to call them what he wants.

Can't remember a similar outcry when we rebranded in the late 90's

If lambrettaman's name is Jeremy, then my money is on one of the Healey's

You might have to do me a synopsis as I read a few posts then drifted off.

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I hated the name, I never bought any merchandise.
I was extremely pleased when we changed back to Hull FC.
With Hull City its one mad man trying to change this, with Hull FC I believe it was a super league directive.

Not sure whether it was a directive, but most clubs changed their names at that point, certainly.