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| At best we've got the 15th best coach in the England job. No coach wants it if they can get a ft SL job.
We either up the amount of internationals or we let a coach have 2 jobs.
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| Whatever your opinion of Steve Mac as coach he has been badly let down by the players on this occasion.
Straight after an embarrassing performance and defeat against Italy and less than a week before the biggest tournament in the RL world a number of players decide it would be a good idea to go on the lash and ignore instruction to stay off the booze (should they need telling this before a World Cup?).
Attitude clearly stinks and will result in the usual limp exit of the World Cup once a decent side is in opposition.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Whatever your opinion of Steve Mac as coach he has been badly let down by the players on this occasion.
Straight after an embarrassing performance and defeat against Italy and less than a week before the biggest tournament in the RL world a number of players decide it would be a good idea to go on the lash and ignore instruction to stay off the booze (should they need telling this before a World Cup?).
Attitude clearly stinks and will result in the usual limp exit of the World Cup once a decent side is in opposition.'" Not buying this, if McNamara commanded respect these incidents wouldn't happen, players obviously had their head up their s when you consider we lost to Italy! It's SM job to get these players in the right frame of mind, even on a bad day we should put 50 on Italy.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Not buying this, if McNamara commanded respect these incidents wouldn't happen, players obviously had their head up their s when you consider we lost to Italy! It's SM job to get these players in the right frame of mind, even on a bad day we should put 50 on Italy.'"
Disagree. This is top level professional sport, players should have enough personal pride to want to perform on the biggest stage.
Club level you may have a point but this is elite level. Whoever thought ignoring a drink ban days before you play the best rugby team in the world is clearly lacking a brain and has the wrong attitude.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Not buying this, if McNamara commanded respect these incidents wouldn't happen, players obviously had their head up their s when you consider we lost to Italy! It's SM job to get these players in the right frame of mind, even on a bad day we should put 50 on Italy.'"
Your on form tonight,a proper coach would command and demand respect,the incidents epitomise their thoughts on mcbanana.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Disagree. This is top level professional sport, players should have enough personal pride to want to perform on the biggest stage.
Club level you may have a point but this is elite level. Whoever thought ignoring a drink ban days before you play the best rugby team in the world is clearly lacking a brain and has the wrong attitude.'"
So why has he only booted out Hock and not the other 3 players who also went out or was Hock the easy option with his record....players have no respect for a 2nd rate coach who has just ballsed up his team.
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| 4 players want on the , none are playing. 1 player missed training, he's out the squad.
It's not hard to understand.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So why has he only booted out Hock and not the other 3 players who also went out or was Hock the easy option with his record....players have no respect for a 2nd rate coach who has just ballsed up his team.'"
Didnt turn up for training. Why try and defend a player who has taken the p###?
Players get a 10 year career at top level so that equates to 2 or possibly 3 world cups in total.
Why would a player throw away a chance to make history and a name for himself because he doesnt rate the coach?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"4 players want on the mickey, none are playing. 1 player missed training, he's out the squad.
It's not hard to understand.'"
They should all have been booted out for going out on the pi$$ and as for understanding!I understood very well thanks???so if a player turns up 2mins late,will he be booted out as we'll...hock was LATE for training so actually didn't miss it did he.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Didnt turn up for training. Why try and defend a player who has taken the p###?
Players get a 10 year career at top level so that equates to 2 or possibly 3 world cups in total.
Why would a player throw away a chance to make history and a name for himself because he doesnt rate the coach?'"
I'm not defending Hock at all...he is as thick as the proverbial and I thought he was 10 mins late? But why wasn't they all booted out for abusing curfew??? Or should mcbanna have fined them all the money for being in the squad,which,IMO,they shouldn't be paid and played them as let's face it,Hock and Graham vastly improve the team.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"I'm not defending Hock at all...he is as thick as the proverbial and I thought he was 10 mins late? But why wasn't they all booted out for abusing curfew??? Or should mcbanna have fined them all the money for being in the squad,which,IMO,they shouldn't be paid and played them as let's face it,Hock and Graham vastly improve the team.'"
Dont know the finer points but it looks like they have all been punished but Hock the most severe because he not only broke the curfew but didnt bother turning up for training the week before we play the Aussies.
Harsh to criticise Macca when he has clearly been badly let down by some players - a couple of which are old enough to know better.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"They should all have been booted out for going out on the pi$$ and as for understanding!I understood very well thanks???so if a player turns up 2mins late,will he be booted out as we'll...hock was LATE for training so actually didn't miss it did he.'"
Well you clearly don't understand, to his own admission he missed training.
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| Quite easy to understand.
For going out on the you are dropped for the next game.
For going our on the and missing training you get kicked out of the squad.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Well you clearly don't understand, to his own admission he missed training.'"
Fair enough..I must have mis-read it then and clearly don't understand.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Quite easy to understand.
For going out on the mickey you are dropped for the next game.
For going our on the mickey and missing training you get kicked out of the squad.'"
Think you made your point smart-,is it a requirement for being a mod that you can be a smart ares and sarcky get.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Think you made your point smart-,is it a requirement for being a mod that you can be a smart ares and sarcky get.'"
I think so.
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| Don't think I'll be able to bring myself to watch tomorrows game. It's gonna be nothing short of an annihilation.
Such a shame as well. Perfect opportunity for rugby league to show the nation (not just the M62) what its all about.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"4 players want on the mickey, none are playing. 1 player missed training, he's out the squad.
It's not hard to understand.'"
My point was if the players respect their coach, they don't break his rules.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"My point was if the players respect their coach, they don't break his rules.'"
I don't think anyone respects McBanana as a coach, never mind the players!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"My point was if the players respect their coach, they don't break his rules.'"
I don't know about that tbh. There's stories of a lot of players breaking the rules of some of the most respected coaches of all time.
It's a lapse in judgement and maybe a feeling they could get away with it.
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| I can't see anything other than a heavy loss.
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| THis is likely to be embarrassing on live national TV. Whilst the coach doesn't have much to work with, you can guarantee macnamara will get the absolute least out of what he has available
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"My point was if the players respect their coach, they don't break his rules.'"
I've seen McBanana try and lay tarmac, and he even f'd that up.
I wouldn't let him run a bath, let alone the National team!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"My point was if the players respect their coach, they don't break his rules.'"
Garbage,what about them showing a bit of respect to the rest of the squad and other coaching staff and maybe take the time to consider they are about to take part in the world cup for England,i see it more a case of players thinking they are Bertie Bigbollox.
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| Quote ="dayvoz"Garbage,what about them showing a bit of respect to the rest of the squad and other coaching staff and maybe take the time to consider they are about to take part in the world cup for England,i see it more a case of players thinking they are Bertie Bigbollox.'"
Whilst an excellent player James Graham hasn't been covering himself in glory recently.
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