Shaul. Made less mistakes than your other players and kept going.

Why wasn't Westerman playing?

Bentham, kept it respectable

They have finished counting them yet

why has westerman played all year

Spot on. Whiting gave a pen or two away as well but he was the only player in our side who consistently won the collision when he had the ball and passed the ball to supporting players. Briscoe and Heremaia would be joint second and no one else gets anywhere near the list. We defended brilliantly and attacked like a park team.

Second most tackles in SL for Hull, second most offloads, fourth most carries, fifth most tackle busts?

I don't rate him.

Facts don't interest you then?

I just think he is a average player, I don't see anything special about him

The stats show you to be mistaken.

Why would you even suggest such a cruel torture against your fellow fans?

Westerman is a grafter as his stats show. Teams need grafters and you'd expect a high stats count from a player who regularly plays for most or all of the game. I think fans maybe expected him to be more creative when he signed but in general for whatever reason his contribution has been more with work rate. His biggest asset is his spirit for me - he gives it 100% whether things are going for him or not.

There's lies,damn lies and statistics.

I agree with him. Westerman goes missing in big games. Hasn't at all been good enough this year imo.

Stats, are stats. They are simply measures which don't account for circumstance. For example, some of the impressive stats can be built up in the easier games.

I honestly thought Westerman was one of your better players yesterday.

When Westerman broke through at Cas, he was touted around as a future GB captain in the Paul Sculthorpe mould. Since moving to Hull he has become just a run of the mill back row grafter.
I haven't seen a real bit of quality from him since he set that try up at Craven Park 2 years ago.

Since all stats are gathered under the same circumstances they are an accurate method of comparison between players - especially players on the same team. People like to ignore or dismiss stats that don't back up their own biased assessment of a player, as this thread demonstrates rather clearly.

I'm a her not a him

ahha. I agree he might be a grafter, but I still think he is average

most errors, .most penalties conceded,4th in missed tackles

Again - he plays big minutes. That said I do see your point - stats can be used to tell different stories about any player.

Thinky westy been one of our better players this year, tackled his self to a standstill yesterday

As a neutral, I would have to go for Whiting, he really got stuck in & Wigan couldn’t handle his offloads.

Really disappointed with the halfbacks, maybe with the cash injection perhaps the board could make a fresh attempt to lure Chase to the KC?

Holdsworth is the one player who disappointed me. Miller is a kid brought over here for his potential, you kind of expect him to struggle with the occasion. Holdsworth is our leader and was just as bad, if not worse than the others.

Busted a load of tackles and we had a job on to control him.

Correct he was in our top 3 with Whiting and Heremaia - Shaul did his very best in his 6th first team game. Briscoe is leaving so some fans can't give him any credit any more.