Unbelievable.

Sorry mate but RUBBISH.

The game transformed last night as soon as Horney started taking Wigan on at the line on the right. He's done it all year even behind beaten packs. Easily our most influential player this year.

Sorry but TRIPE, utter BILGE. Horne is at almost top of try assist stats in what's been a poor poor team at times so it's a hell of a stretch at this rate.!!!!!!!
Wakefield he was probably still m o m along with Aaron (tremendous n smart kicking game)& after being by one of the biggest margins ever hulls best player on the good Friday game(by the admission by all my rovers pals)

Horne
Houghton
Lineham

Cant believe that there's only one person who has picked Danny Houghton, He is leading the way in the Top Tackles, Marker Tackles, Carries and Runs from Dummy Half stats. He has had a great season so far.

Horney and Holdsworth could be a lethal partnership once Holdsworth comes back. Tommy Lineham has to be a contender for super leagues young player of the year award.

Horne
Lineham
Mcdonnell
Also shaul
Westerman for me, has done ok only, and needs to sort out the penalties

You in my mind, are an idiot

Either unbelievable ignorance, or ridiculous trolling!!!


Best 3 for me so far....
Horne (By a country mile)
Lineham
Whiting

You're all going to have to put up better arguments than that to prove how Horne's apparently carried us for majority of the year.

Great, it's fantastic that our player playing the most pivotal position in the team is joint top on try assists at round 13. However I highly doubt we'd be lurking in the bottom four if it wasn't for Horne's influence. Fine, I'll give you that he's found a bit of form, but just because every single of his punts down-field aren't finding the fullback on the full any more and he's created a few tries, suddenly Horne's this Sinfield-esque general playmaker, or this perfect support player to play alongside Holdsworth (whichever way you view it). He's suddenly a legend of the club, and him going through the motions for the past 5 or 6 years is justified. There's nothing that Horne's done this year that can't be done comfortably by another capable halfback given the promise that the rest of the squad has.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love Horne to succeed. I'd love him to be able to be this perfectly complimentary player alongside Holdsworth. I'd love him to be a main pivotal component while we're challenging the top teams at the latter stages of the season in the playoffs. But my point is, I wouldn't prefer it to be him over any other player. Which can't be said in regards to a lot of our fellow Hull fans. This clouds their judgement. How much people revered Horne's "man of the match performance" against Rovers is an example of this. Yes Horne made a few promising runs and looked safe at times in the game, but he also was responsible for a few errors that Rovers then went on to score tries from, such as his knock-on near our try-line and stupidly and unnecessarily letting the ball roll into the in-goal resulting in a dropout which they then went on to score from on something like the 2nd tackle.

This vitriolic response is also exaggerated (as well as Horne's performances) due to people's need to feel like they have to protect Horne, and what he stands for when you consider local pride and such. No doubt some of the fickle ones of the bunch I've quoted above will agree with me once his form drops again, but some people remain only fans of Horne himself and will still continue to make all kinds of wild excuses for him ceasing to create tries any more: such as him not having a suitable organising halfback partner alongside him so he can have free-reign (I wouldn't class Heremaia as an organising halfback. He doesn't seem to be directing play to that much of an effect to make the claim that he is, so where does that argument stand now?). If he's "carried us for the full year" with his usual support play and elusive running, then wouldn't he be on the receiving end of tries and not creating them thus reflecting in his total tries, and not his try assists stat? It follows then that if people are saying he's "carried us for the full year" and this reflects in his try assists stat, then surely they're also saying he's now suitable to call the shots and doesn't need free reign any more, or a suitable organising halfback partner? I'll be looking forward for when this argument pops up again after a dip in form.

You can throw around petty insults all you like but I'm looking at this objectively, and I still don't see Horne doing what I've just said I'd love him to be able to do, and that's pretty much deduced to fulfilling the role at halfback to the calibre of consistent performance that our club deserves.

I know this has gotten quite long-winded, so it might seem that this is an attack on Horne as a person. It isn't. The point is, I just want us to challenge the top teams for silverware, so I'm saying we need something extra and we deserve it.



To get back on topic, I think most people see that Houghton sacrifices a lot of the excitement in his game that he used to have attacking (with his scoots, etc) for defence nowadays. We do look laboriously slow at the play the ball and around the ruck in some games. I think it's because of this. When Heremaia switches back to 9 I think we'll start to see improvement around that area (as he gets us moving at dummy half and I think has better distribution than Houghton) and we'll start to see the best of both worlds.

Not read all that but if it says that Horne isn't in the top 3 players this year then it's wrong.

I'd give it a good read and a good think, because when it comes to the business end of the season a lot of people are going to be eating humble pie.

If Horne has a total mare between now and the end of the season then if there's another thread like this then he might not be in people's selections. But to aid your understanding the thread title states "half way through the season-top 3 players so far". There are some key words in there that you clearly need to look up.

Even if Horne has the dip in form you seem to be hoping for at the end of the season, nothing will alter the fact that he's been one of the best players in the first half of the season.

I looked them up.

I'm now asking you to consider this:

If Horne's general performance for the full season is what's fully required from the player playing the most important position on the pitch enough to warrant him to be in your top 3, will we be making any impact in the playoffs against the top teams?

Hint:
The answer's no.

I have no hidden agenda, I'm looking at this objectively.

I don't prefer Horne to any other player just on the basis of where he's from. Unlike some.

Now consider the above.

Thank you.

Look them up again pal you've missed something.

Horne isn't in my top 3, because I expect more from a half-back, and to justify the player getting the amount of praise that he's currently getting.

I think you need to look up on your standards.

We will NOT be making any impact in the playoffs against the top teams if your standards stay the same. More importantly, if Gentle's standards reflect yours.

The same goes to every other Hull fan out there.

Anyone who doesn't think Horne has been one of our top 3 players this season either hasn't been watching, or doesn't know what they're talking about.

Whether you consider him good enough to play half back in a top 4 team is immaterial. We're not a top 4 team at the moment and Horne has stood out in difficult circumstances.

In that case, I repeat:

There's nothing that Horne's done this year that can't be done comfortably by another capable halfback given the promise that the rest of the squad has.

If he's in your top 3, you need to re-evaluate your standards of what you expect from your halfback. You need to consider all that I've said in terms of bias before giving overzealous and outlandish remarks of praise. And then you need to put things in context: while considering all that I've said previously in regards to the playoffs, re-evaluate his performances.

He won't be any longer in your top 3.

Seems you're in the latter category.

Rather an odd change of tactic - you're now saying Richard Horne is a capable halfback.

Well that's strange...

Usually when someone claims that the other "doesn't know what they're talking about", they try to reason why.

I'll take it that you've conceded defeat.

If Horne's in your top 3, you need to re-evaluate and think again.

Capable of mediocrity.

Form is temporary, mediocrity is permanent.

So every hull fan on here, must be over 20 had Horne is their top three, except you, and you think they must re-evaluate their top three?

Not been a massive horne fan for the last couple of years, but this year he has been excellent, making breaks, setting up try's and even an improved kicking game.

You are making your self look a bit stupid.

It's patently obvious to everyone but you that you're talking nonsense.

You're confusing where you'd like us to be with where we actually are. We're a mid-table side and we've suffered more than our fair share of injuries. In those difficult circumstances, Horne has still managed to be somewhere near the top of the assists chart. If you don't think he's had a very good first half of the season, you're bonkers.

Why does it matter what other halfbacks can do? We don't have other halfbacks, we've got Horne & he's doing a pretty decent job so far.

My top 3 would be Horne, McDonnell & Green so far.