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| Has Shaul been playing regularly for York though? I can't remember seeing his name on the team sheet much and he didn't play the weekend before the London game. Nicklas got an awful rating in the report from the local rag as well. So perhaps PG didn't have as much choice as some people seem to think.
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| Quote ="Chris71"No but then why resign him if we have no intention of playing him when he was resigned for precisely this scenario to fill the void should we lose one or more of Horne, Holdsworth & Seymour.'"
No idea. The same as I've no idea why we signed Galea. I am pretty sure that Niklas would not have improved our chances one iota on Saturday though.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"Has Shaul been playing regularly for York though? I can't remember seeing his name on the team sheet much and he didn't play the weekend before the London game. Nicklas got an awful rating in the report from the local rag as well. So perhaps PG didn't have as much choice as some people seem to think.'"
think he only played in the first game for york as their own fullback was injured, this is where not having a u20s/21s is coming back to bite clubs on the @rse! players like shaul are left in limbo not getting any game time at all and when we had an injury like on saturday it would've been madness and unfair to put shaul in with practically no game time this season!
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| Quote ="number 6"think he only played in the first game for york as their own fullback was injured, this is where not having a u20s/21s is coming back to bite clubs on the @rse! players like shaul are left in limbo not getting any game time at all and when we had an injury like on saturday it would've been madness and unfair to put shaul in with practically no game time this season!'"
All Gentle's fault I reckon.
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| Quote ="number 6"think he only played in the first game for york as their own fullback was injured, this is where not having a u20s/21s is coming back to bite clubs on the @rse! players like shaul are left in limbo not getting any game time at all and when we had an injury like on saturday it would've been madness and unfair to put shaul in with practically no game time this season!'"
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| Quote ="number 6"think he only played in the first game for york as their own fullback was injured, this is where not having a u20s/21s is coming back to bite clubs on the @rse! players like shaul are left in limbo not getting any game time at all and when we had an injury like on saturday it would've been madness and unfair to put shaul in with practically no game time this season!'"
I recon Gentle thought it best to leave Shaul until the derby, and then the sad fans can crucify him at Easter.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"having witnessd the london game first hand, can i just ask fellow supporters, why do we have a squad of 25-30 players?? its clearly evident to me, that no matter who gets injured etc, then we never use our squad.. take saturday for example, surely brisoce would be better staying on the wing rather than using him as full back, his performance was woeful if im honest..... why dont we use the reserve full back??, ie: shaul i think the lads name is?? whats the point in having players such as nicklas, kent,shaul, cunningham rotting around when gentle has no intention of playing them???
for me, if a certain player is injured then surely it would be better to deploy a like for like replacement player to fill the void,
so, as for satuday, we had a winger as a full back, a hooker as a half-back, and whiting playing wherever needed as usual.... when we should have had, nicklas in place of holdsworth ,shaul in place of mcdonnell for a start.. and then we can play 2 hookers to give the knackerd but outstanding houghton a break.......
utter caos at the minute under gentle'"
I would like to see this happen and actually last year we did see some good performances from the youngsters.
I reckon PG is under much more pressure from AP this season and is panicking a little, the problem of course if he plays the youngsters and they fail he is in trouble - damned if you damned if you dont.
The ultimate question is are FC trying for short term success or long term development under PG, if it truly is the latter then success should be sacrificed whilst we blood and develop the kids (find our own 7 for example).
If that message was clear everyone would back the team and understand.
I may be wrong but it seems that Leeds, Saints & Wigan often put faith in relatively unheard youngsters and they end up being very good players.
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"Has Shaul been playing regularly for York though? I can't remember seeing his name on the team sheet much and he didn't play the weekend before the London game. Nicklas got an awful rating in the report from the local rag as well. So perhaps PG didn't have as much choice as some people seem to think.'"
He has only played for York once, away at Whitehaven on the opening day of the season.
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| Quote ="Wheels"He has only played for York once, away at Whitehaven on the opening day of the season.'"
What about Nicklas.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"What about Nicklas.'"
Played every game apart from Sheffield away. Was very impressive in the wins against Swinton and Workington but was pretty anonymous in defeats to Batley and Keighley. All 17 of them we're bloody awful against Keighley to be fair.
When playing behind a dominant pack he can certainly do some damage, but he is prone to the odd brain explosion.
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| Is there a position Richard Whiting hasnt played
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| I agree with some posts. Also agree with the like of wigan leeds etc blooding in there youngsters.
But also IMO wigan, leeds etc can blood in there youngsters with ease because they have quality players. There youngsters come into the side to give the stars a rest.
But i do feel bowden, kent and green should play more though. Nicklas well that's upto him. Didn't show much when used before but with a decent go who knows.
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| Have to be careful how many youngsters you blood at once. I personally don't think Niklas will ever pay for us again.
Heard a whisper that Green didn't play due to a contractual issue, not sure what it is?
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| Quote ="heard1989"I agree with some posts. Also agree with the like of wigan leeds etc blooding in there youngsters.
But also IMO wigan, leeds etc can blood in there youngsters with ease because they have quality players. There youngsters come into the side to give the stars a rest.
But i do feel bowden, kent and green should play more though. Nicklas well that's upto him. Didn't show much when used before but with a decent go who knows.'"
Green and Bowden have had a few appearances and should play more i feel sorry for Kent he was coming on good last year and not had a sniff of an appearance this year id put him in for galea tbh
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"Green and Bowden have had a few appearances and should play more i feel sorry for Kent he was coming on good last year and not had a sniff of an appearance this year id put him in for galea tbh'"
Yeah i know, i'm agreeing with a previous post stating they should play more.
I think bowden should replace pitts on the bench because i think he's one of our better props. Also closest thing to Sam Moa we have. Good drives, big hits and always gets back up. Green well, i'm still enjoying him mocking Peacock against Leeds. Only good thing about that game.
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"Green and Bowden have had a few appearances and should play more i feel sorry for Kent he was coming on good last year and not had a sniff of an appearance this year id put him in for galea tbh'"
kent is still injured or has just recovered from an injury i think
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"Green and Bowden have had a few appearances and should play more i feel sorry for Kent he was coming on good last year and not had a sniff of an appearance this year id put him in for galea tbh'"
You would play Kent (who has not played a match for months, and isnt that good of a prospect IMO) over Galea who is one of our top scorers??
FWIW I wouldnt be playing Galea - i would have Westerman in the left Second Row position to use his ball skills to get that left side firing, but no way would i replace Galea with a youngster who hasnt shown as much as Green, Bowden etc have
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| would like to see green and bowden get more game time,both good prospects imo
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"You would play Kent (who has not played a match for months, and isnt that good of a prospect IMO) over Galea who is one of our top scorers??
FWIW I wouldnt be playing Galea - i would have Westerman in the left Second Row position to use his ball skills to get that left side firing, but no way would i replace Galea with a youngster who hasnt shown as much as Green, Bowden etc have'"
i would yes once he was fit id have him in the squad over galea any day and only if they was him and galea fighting for the place but they isn't we have westy and tickle fit atm so id play them 2
but getting to your point about him not performing as well as other youngsters is that maybe because when he got his chance he played prop when we was short when he was probably big enough to play centre at a push??? and he did not put a foot wrong or take a backwards step he was really strong if i remember rightly
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| I just think your pushing out youngsters names for the sake of it when they wouldnt actually offer anything more than the people currently playing there.
You have a case with Lineham over Crookes, Green over Pitts, Bowden over Johnson etc - but not Kent over Galea
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I just think your pushing out youngsters names for the sake of it when they wouldnt actually offer anything more than the people currently playing there.
You have a case with Lineham over Crookes, Green over Pitts, Bowden over Johnson etc - but not Kent over Galea'"
i know what you mean but i don't mean as 1st choice i just mean in the squad over galea although he has scored tries i just don't see what the point in signing him was or what he actually brings to us hes slow lazy slipping off tackles hes simply past it
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| i disagreed with the Galea signing - but then you step back and look from a different perspective and you think that we have quite a young, emerging pack of forwards.
This guy has had a good career, a lot of experience and was a very good players. If he can guide the likes of Green, Pitts, Kent, Hadley etc then that would be invaluable. I dont actually think he will get a lot of game time when Ellis is back - but what he can do on the training pitch with these young lads is probably better long term than what he will do on the pitch
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| I would have thought the descion to play Briscoe at FB was probably of his attacking abilities, running the ball back and joining the attack are two of Briscoe's strenghts and we have been saying we need to get him into the game.
It didn't work but at least he tried something.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"i disagreed with the Galea signing - but then you step back and look from a different perspective and you think that we have quite a young, emerging pack of forwards.
This guy has had a good career, a lot of experience and was a very good players. If he can guide the likes of Green, Pitts, Kent, Hadley etc then that would be invaluable. I dont actually think he will get a lot of game time when Ellis is back - but what he can do on the training pitch with these young lads is probably better long term than what he will do on the pitch'"
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| Quote ="Punos"I would have thought the descion to play Briscoe at FB was probably of his attacking abilities, running the ball back and joining the attack are two of Briscoe's strenghts and we have been saying we need to get him into the game.
It didn't work but at least he tried something.'"
We've tried that before (Widnes A last year) and it failed miserably.
Time to stop moving players around and play them in there proper positions.
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