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| I think there are some with Very Rose tinted glasses here for Colin best. CB had the advantage of having Centres who would pass him the ball and halves who could release our 3/4 line. With e exception of London away, griffin park, best never created anything for himself.
As for the poster who is waiting for Briscoe to trump Bests tries I suggest you look at the footage of the away games at Cas for the last two seasons, the away game at wakey in 2011. The Salford home game of 2011 and the leeds game of 2012. That's not taking into account the breaks he makes from absolutely nothing.
Briscoe is strong and fast. best and raynor didn't have his strength and hence, despite their high work rate, they never looked like breaking the line.
Now throw in that Briscoes centre rarely passes and there have been not real halves to speak of, I'd say TB is way ahead in most aspects of the game
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"=#BF0000TB is the best defensively IMO, and will get even better.
Raynor on fire was the best attacking in my opinion, but all round Best takes some beating.
Having said that in 5 years when TB comes back to FC from Oz, he will be better than all 3 put together.
And he will come back as surely FC can negotiate first refusal? Or maybe not if his contract ends? I would like to think TB might do that for us either way?
To many questions for a first post I've confused myself.....
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the kid can't catch... His NRL career will be over in 2 years at best. Either that or he'll be playing for the team regularly in the bottom 2..
Personally I'm glad that we haven't allocated a huge chunk of our cap on a winger and a vastly overrated winger at that!!
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the kid can't catch... His NRL career will be over in 2 years at best. Either that or he'll be playing for the team regularly in the bottom 2..
Personally I'm glad that we haven't allocated a huge chunk of our cap on a winger and a vastly overrated winger at that!!'"
I agree, he is a good solid player but it would not warrant silly money to keep him.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I think there are some with Very Rose tinted glasses here for Colin best. CB had the advantage of having Centres who would pass him the ball and halves who could release our 3/4 line. With e exception of London away, griffin park, best never created anything for himself.
As for the poster who is waiting for Briscoe to trump Bests tries I suggest you look at the footage of the away games at Cas for the last two seasons, the away game at wakey in 2011. The Salford home game of 2011 and the leeds game of 2012. That's not taking into account the breaks he makes from absolutely nothing.
Briscoe is strong and fast. best and raynor didn't have his strength and hence, despite their high work rate, they never looked like breaking the line.
Now throw in that Briscoes centre rarely passes and there have been not real halves to speak of, I'd say TB is way ahead in most aspects of the game'"
Totally agree with all this. Loved Best n Raynor but Briscoe can do everything they could n more!
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| Colin Best for me.
As for Raynor and Briscoe, that would be very close and I'm not sure who I'd choose.
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"I agree, he is a good solid player but it would not warrant silly money to keep him.'"
Agreed. Step up to the plate Tom Lineham.
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| Has he turned hulls offer down?
Just reading a few comments on fb.
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| Quote ="shauney"Agreed. Step up to the plate [uTom Lineham[/u.'"
Exciting prospect without a doubt.
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| Gutted is Tom goes. Another step back for the squad, once again we can't keep our best players. We'll never win silverware all the time this happens.
Good luck to him, not happy about it though and in all honesty I think it's too soon for him.
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| Best for me. Raynor edges it second with Briscoe third.
Briscoe is quality and will be missed but I agree throwing fortune at him would of been a mistake given our short coming in other areas.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"once again we can't keep our best players.'"
AP made Briscoe a "huge" offer, Briscoe has decided (apparently) to go and live in Australia for 2 (maybe more) years, he'll be 23 when he gets on the plane, I don't know many people who wouldn't want to take that opportunity and see how it goes.
Who else have we "lost"?
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| Quote ="Standee"AP made Briscoe a "huge" offer, Briscoe has decided (apparently) to go and live in Australia for 2 (maybe more) years, he'll be 23 when he gets on the plane, I don't know many people who wouldn't want to take that opportunity and see how it goes.
Who else have we "lost"?'"
Whenever we have a star player we lose them to someone, right back to Schofield and Crooks.
We lost Manu last year.
Not saying the club could have done anymore, however the fact is we have lost a top player. We can't afford to. We'll never win anything if we do.
How many top players to Leeds lose?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"How many top players to Leeds lose?'"
No idea, not being a L**ds fan, why don't you swap your season pass for Headingley?
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| Quote ="Standee"No idea, not being a L**ds fan, why don't you swap your season pass for Headingley?'"
why dont you swap your sky card for an fc pass
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| Quote ="voodooroo"why dont you swap your sky card for an fc pass'"
because it isn't worth the 200+ mile round trip and an afternoon off work...as I have said many times.
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| Quote ="Standee"AP made Briscoe a "huge" offer, Briscoe has decided [u:1zl2yrhf:1zl2yrhf(apparently):1zl2yrhf[/u
however that is the major part of that sentence, because its all guesswork and no one knows apart from TB
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| Quote ="Standee"No idea, not being a L**ds fan, why don't you swap your season pass for Headingley?'"
Haha, says the man who doesn't go!
I'm comparing us to the champions, the best way to measure yourself.
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| Good luck to Tom in OZ.
Got to give him credit for at least giving it a go, he could saty here and flat track his way through his career like the Worlds Best Winger !!
Mind you, Briscoe might as well go now as hes got a season on fans on his back for every mistake and tackle he misses to look forward to
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| Quote ="Standee"because it isn't worth the 200+ mile round trip .'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Gutted is Tom goes. [size=150Another step back for the squad, once again we can't keep our best players. We'll never win silverware all the time this happens.[/sizeGood luck to him, not happy about it though and in all honesty I think it's too soon for him.'"
Its not just Hull FC who have or will lose their top stars. Tom is not the first and will not be the last to leave our game due to the big money offered by Union and the NRL.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Good luck to Tom in OZ.
Got to give him credit for at least giving it a go, he could saty here and flat track his way through his career like the Worlds Best Winger !!
Mind you, Briscoe might as well go now as hes got a season on fans on his back for every mistake and tackle he misses to look forward to'"
Not going to aus doesn't make you a coward.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"[uHaha, says the man who doesn't go![/u
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you cant say things like that paulm dont you know
"because it isn't worth the 200+ mile round trip "
from this moment on i wonder how many times i will re post that statement where is Barnabus when you need him LOLOLOLOL
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| Quote ="voodooroo"you cant say things like that paulm dont you know
"because it isn't worth the 200+ mile round trip "
from this moment on i wonder how many times i will re post that statement
where is Barnabus when you need him LOLOLOLOL'"
how many miles is it from your bedsit to the KC?
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| Very hard to compare the 3 best wingers I have seen in SL era - Briscoe, Best and Raynor as all from a completely different mould. Raynor the best I have seen taking the ball up from defence but not as good in attack as the other two. Briscoe and Best have an almost identical strike record (0.61 tries per game) but cant really remember Best making "something out of nothing" like Briscoe. As far not making it in the NRL - who knows - but at least he will try and find out. Hall and Jones-Bishop hardly got taken apart by Manly's Williams and Oldfield in last years WCC.
The good news? I see a bit of all 3 in Tom Lineham
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Whenever we have a star player we lose them to someone, right back to Schofield and Crooks.
We lost Manu last year.
Not saying the club could have done anymore, however the fact is we have lost a top player. We can't afford to. We'll never win anything if we do.
How many top players to Leeds lose?'"
Leeds have lost players to the NRL in the past. They may well do so again. It happens, and will likely happen even more now that the NRL is cashed up.
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